[sudo-discuss] Replace Sudo elec outlets with GFI

Jake jake at spaz.org
Thu Jan 29 13:22:44 PST 2015


I will keep my eyes peeled for an isolation transformer, actually i used 
to have a nice 500W one in san francisco.

but i want to emphasize for everyone here that such an item will have 
absolutely no effect on popping circuit breakers.

I think we should have more branches, more outlets on different breakers, 
for sudoroom - including a couple of outlets which have their own breaker, 
for example in the tools area.

Also, the fact that our circuit breaker panel is in the balcony above the 
stage, which is inaccessible except to skilled climbers, is sufficient 
motivation for people to avoid popping circuit breakers.

Also, every power strip ever has its own 15-amp circuit breaker, which 
will pop before the one in the panel, so we should just practice using a 
power strip with any sketchy experiments.

-jake

On Thu, 29 Jan 2015, David Keenan wrote:

> I'd just like to bump this thread up again in the hopes that someone knowledgeable will trawl eBay for suitable isolation transformers?
> 
> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>       Yes, what I mostly meant by upstream effects is that flipping the breaker obviously turns off a lot of other outlets in Sudo and possibly
>       breaks others' projects. 
> I don't think a space heater was running, but I wouldn't swear to it.
> 
> David 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>       I suspect part of the problem is that the Bocce ball court gets so cold that people have been using space heaters. If most of the
>       outlets are on a single breaker, it doesn't take too much extra to trip a breaker if you have a heater running...
> 
> Patrik
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>       If people are overloading the circuit breakers, or the breakers are tripping at lower than designed currents, this will not help.
> Before buying anything you should figure out why the breakers are tripping.
> 
> -steve
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>       Killer. Adam - since I obviously lack the technical literacy to scope eBay for the properly right stuff, might this be
>       something you'd be willing to look for on our behalf - i.e., pass on links to some Adam-approved eBay isolation
>       transformers)?
> If Sudo does not have the funds to hand to acquire these, depending on the cost I will make a request of Omni Commons to purchase.
> As I see this as something that will help us pass our Fire Life & Safety inspection for the building..
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Adam Munich <adam at aperture.systems> wrote:
>
>       It would be better to get something like this on eBay, because large, ie several kilowatt transformers typically can
>       be had for pennies on the dollar there. Low voltage transformers really don't go bad so the age doesn't matter.
>
>       On Jan 27, 2015 11:19 AM, "David Keenan" <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>             Yes to this Adam, thank you. I searched around and found a product like this - Adam would you say this is
>             the right sort of product for sudo or can you reccomend a better / more affordable one?
> David
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Adam Munich <adam at aperture.systems> wrote:
>
>       I think the ideal solution here would be to get some form of isolation transformer with an in-line breaker
>       for when people want to fuck with the line. In this way it is very difficult to a) electrocute yourself
>       and b) cause damage to the circuits.
>
>       Further if we ever get a safety inspection this would appease people swiftly.
> 
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