[sudo-discuss] [drama] no secrets here

["Løng$hanks"]

By all means, feel free to ban me from Sudo Room, although I've only been to the old space
once & the new space twice. I can't helping feeling it will be a waste of everyone's time &
energy to ban me, since I probably won't be there much anyway, & also I think with each new
banning you further define your community by exclusivity & shame, which is...a shame...but if
it is somehow cathartic for you to deny me access to your space, by all means, who am I to
stand in your way.

+11+

On Wed, January 28, 2015 4:08 am, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
> If we ban someone from physically visiting the space because their presence
> is bad for the community, I see no reason why we can't ban them from the
> mailing lists as well. Just saying...
>
> Patrik
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Candace Lazarou <candacelazarou at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, please stop
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm adding the drama tag to this thread for filters.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 6:41 PM, "Løng$hanks" <longshanks at spaz.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Huh.
>>>> Jake, you are a prick.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, January 26, 2015 10:45 pm, Jake wrote:
>>>> > i'm really ashamed that this guy has a spaz.org email address.
>>>> >
>>>> > you can thank Stan for that.
>>>> >
>>>> > -jake
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 26 Jan 2015, "Løng$hanks" wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Damn, I always miss the good stuff.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dear Noisebridge,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Recently I got a chance to check out your 86 page & I want to thank
>>>> you for including me at
>>>> >> https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/86. I'm sorry I've been too busy
>>>> since you banned me to
>>>> >> check it out til now. Life as a sexy homeless man is hard! If I can
>>>> lodge one complaint,
>>>> >> it's
>>>> >> only that I'm so low on the list (the very last!) that I'm afraid
>>>> some people won't read
>>>> >> down
>>>> >> that far. Any chance of bumping me up a bit? wink emoticon
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If you have any questions about the elevator incident, my current
>>>> mental health, the size &
>>>> >> quality of my recent bowel movements, etc, all of this information is
>>>> available at
>>>> >> http://resistor.spaz.org. I also left print copies on the lit table
>>>> in the Omni entryway
>>>> >> last
>>>> >> night!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +11+
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks so much for the pic I've been waiting for f***ing ever on that!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, January 26, 2015 5:25 pm, null null null wrote:
>>>> >>> Thanks everyone for your input. If anyone will be around the Omni
>>>> tonight,
>>>> >>> I think it might be helpful to brainstorm strategies in person. Say
>>>> 5:00 to
>>>> >>> 6:30? I'll rely anything that comes up back to the list.
>>>> >>> On Jan 24, 2015 1:51 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> thanks Null (whoever that is) for bringing this up and suggesting
>>>> good
>>>> >>>> pointers on how we should deal with such situations.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I agree with Patrik that it's important for someone to take a
>>>> picture,
>>>> >>>> when someone makes enough of a problem that it takes multiple
>>>> people to
>>>> >>>> deal with them, a photograph is essential for two reasons:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 1. it allows us to share with each other the knowledge about a
>>>> problem
>>>> >>>> person in case they come back (expecting no one will remember them)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> 2. it lets them know that we will not forget who they are, and that
>>>> they
>>>> >>>> should forget about us and never come back.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I must stress that #2 is the most important aspect of this, because
>>>> >>>> ultimately our goal should be for problem people to go away and
>>>> never come
>>>> >>>> back.  Ideally they will tell their friends "don't bother, those
>>>> people are
>>>> >>>> not the victims we believed them to be" or a paraphrase of that.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> in particular, read the story of "Thief" from the noisebridge 86
>>>> wiki:
>>>> >>>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/86
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> "This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out
>>>> of his
>>>> >>>>  backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy
>>>> tried to
>>>> >>>>  say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was
>>>> tackled
>>>> >>>>  by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and
>>>> he kept
>>>> >>>>  avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket
>>>> turned
>>>> >>>>  out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe
>>>> fell
>>>> >>>>  onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told
>>>> him
>>>> >>>>  not to come back."
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> It took several people holding onto him to keep him from exiting
>>>> down the
>>>> >>>> stairwell with people's property.  He really wanted to leave but he
>>>> did not
>>>> >>>> hit or strike anyone at any time, which is why we let him go after
>>>> >>>> searching him and getting the stolen items back.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> When there is no photograph, it's basically impossible to prevent a
>>>> person
>>>> >>>> from coming back whenever they want unless there is a person there
>>>> who will
>>>> >>>> recognize them.  We can't be playing cat and mouse with people who
>>>> want to
>>>> >>>> take advantage of us.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> -jake
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