[sudo-discuss] Replace Sudo elec outlets with GFI

[Jake]

what consequences for the rest of the building!?

which flippin circuit breaker flipped already?

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, David Keenan wrote:

> Adam was there and I feel can explain far better than I why the breaker flipped, but we do know why it
> occurred. 
> In the most basic language folks are shorting the circuit by working on electronics & machines that are
> connected up to power. So it's not that the circuit is being 'overloaded' by say drawing too many Amps, its
> from a miswire -
> 
> Since you asked it was the gentleman named Sam with the electric motorbike, who was working on a project
> (looked like a motor, or?) that flipped the breaker. Not sure if I have said person's email but presumably
> they are on this list - 
> 
> It's important for me to say that Sudo is around precisely for such experimentation and hackery and Sam should
> not feel badly for flipping the breaker. Rather, I feel we need to create safer workspaces and workflows (as
> much as we can at any rate) for such experimentation to take place so that upstream consequences for the rest
> of the building are minimized. 
> 
> Best,
> David
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>       If people are overloading the circuit breakers, or the breakers are tripping at lower than
>       designed currents, this will not help.
> Before buying anything you should figure out why the breakers are tripping.
> 
> -steve
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>       Killer. Adam - since I obviously lack the technical literacy to scope eBay for the properly
>       right stuff, might this be something you'd be willing to look for on our behalf - i.e., pass
>       on links to some Adam-approved eBay isolation transformers)?
> If Sudo does not have the funds to hand to acquire these, depending on the cost I will make a
> request of Omni Commons to purchase. As I see this as something that will help us pass our Fire
> Life & Safety inspection for the building..
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Adam Munich <adam at aperture.systems> wrote:
>
>       It would be better to get something like this on eBay, because large, ie several
>       kilowatt transformers typically can be had for pennies on the dollar there. Low
>       voltage transformers really don't go bad so the age doesn't matter.
>
>       On Jan 27, 2015 11:19 AM, "David Keenan" <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>             Yes to this Adam, thank you. I searched around and found a product like
>             this - Adam would you say this is the right sort of product for sudo or
>             can you reccomend a better / more affordable one?
> David
> 
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Adam Munich <adam at aperture.systems> wrote:
>
>       I think the ideal solution here would be to get some form of isolation
>       transformer with an in-line breaker for when people want to fuck with the
>       line. In this way it is very difficult to a) electrocute yourself and b)
>       cause damage to the circuits.
>
>       Further if we ever get a safety inspection this would appease people
>       swiftly.
> 
> 
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> -steve
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