[sudo-discuss] Replace Sudo elec outlets with GFI

[Steve Berl]

As long as the isolation transformer has current limiting fuse/breaker,
which has a lower limit than the main breaker, this should help and be
safer for the experimenters.

-steve

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:49 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Adam was there and I feel can explain far better than I why the breaker
> flipped, but we do know why it occurred.
>
> In the most basic language folks are shorting the circuit by working on
> electronics & machines that are connected up to power. So it's not that the
> circuit is being 'overloaded' by say drawing too many Amps, its from a
> miswire -
>
> Since you asked it was the gentleman named Sam with the electric
> motorbike, who was working on a project (looked like a motor, or?) that
> flipped the breaker. Not sure if I have said person's email but presumably
> they are on this list -
>
> It's important for me to say that Sudo is around precisely for such
> experimentation and hackery and Sam should not feel badly for flipping the
> breaker. Rather, I feel we need to create safer workspaces and workflows
> (as much as we can at any rate) for such experimentation to take place so
> that upstream consequences for the rest of the building are minimized.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If people are overloading the circuit breakers, or the breakers are
>> tripping at lower than designed currents, this will not help.
>>
>> Before buying anything you should figure out why the breakers are
>> tripping.
>>
>> -steve
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:38 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Killer. Adam - since I obviously lack the technical literacy to scope
>>> eBay for the properly right stuff, might this be something you'd be willing
>>> to look for on our behalf - i.e., pass on links to some Adam-approved eBay
>>> isolation transformers)?
>>>
>>> If Sudo does not have the funds to hand to acquire these, depending on
>>> the cost I will make a request of Omni Commons to purchase. As I see this
>>> as something that will help us pass our Fire Life & Safety inspection for
>>> the building..
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Adam Munich <adam at aperture.systems>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be better to get something like this on eBay, because large,
>>>> ie several kilowatt transformers typically can be had for pennies on the
>>>> dollar there. Low voltage transformers really don't go bad so the age
>>>> doesn't matter.
>>>> On Jan 27, 2015 11:19 AM, "David Keenan" <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes to this Adam, thank you. I searched around and found a product
>>>>> like this
>>>>> <http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/147370/Tripp-Lite-IS1000HG/?cm_mmc=PLA-_-Google-_-Computer_Tablet_Accessories-_-147370-VQ6-42102167876-VQ16c-VQ17-pla-VQ18-online-VQ19-147370-VQ20-72939322076-VQ21-> -
>>>>> Adam would you say this is the right sort of product for sudo or can you
>>>>> reccomend a better / more affordable one?
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Adam Munich <adam at aperture.systems>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the ideal solution here would be to get some form of
>>>>>> isolation transformer with an in-line breaker for when people want to fuck
>>>>>> with the line. In this way it is very difficult to a) electrocute yourself
>>>>>> and b) cause damage to the circuits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Further if we ever get a safety inspection this would appease people
>>>>>> swiftly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> -steve
>>
>
>


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-steve
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