[sudo-discuss] Stealing Shit Policy

[null null null]

Thanks everyone for your input. If anyone will be around the Omni tonight,
I think it might be helpful to brainstorm strategies in person. Say 5:00 to
6:30? I'll rely anything that comes up back to the list.
On Jan 24, 2015 1:51 AM, "Jake" <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> thanks Null (whoever that is) for bringing this up and suggesting good
> pointers on how we should deal with such situations.
>
> I agree with Patrik that it's important for someone to take a picture,
> when someone makes enough of a problem that it takes multiple people to
> deal with them, a photograph is essential for two reasons:
>
> 1. it allows us to share with each other the knowledge about a problem
> person in case they come back (expecting no one will remember them)
>
> 2. it lets them know that we will not forget who they are, and that they
> should forget about us and never come back.
>
> I must stress that #2 is the most important aspect of this, because
> ultimately our goal should be for problem people to go away and never come
> back.  Ideally they will tell their friends "don't bother, those people are
> not the victims we believed them to be" or a paraphrase of that.
>
> in particular, read the story of "Thief" from the noisebridge 86 wiki:
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/86
>
> "This guy went into the back classroom and took Rayc's wallet out of his
>  backpack. Rayc saw him with the wallet in his hand and the guy tried to
>  say it was his. He then started running towards the door and was tackled
>  by Jake. We made him show us that nothing was in his pockets, and he kept
>  avoiding the big pocket in the front of his jacket. This pocket turned
>  out to have Sasha's smart phone. During the search his crack pipe fell
>  onto the floor and broke into many pieces. We let him go and told him
>  not to come back."
>
> It took several people holding onto him to keep him from exiting down the
> stairwell with people's property.  He really wanted to leave but he did not
> hit or strike anyone at any time, which is why we let him go after
> searching him and getting the stolen items back.
>
> When there is no photograph, it's basically impossible to prevent a person
> from coming back whenever they want unless there is a person there who will
> recognize them.  We can't be playing cat and mouse with people who want to
> take advantage of us.
>
> -jake
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