[sudo-discuss] RAYC's membership

[Sam Tepper]

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There are many complaints that NB members (and a few sudo co-members)
have against Rayc.  Not all of them are valid, but we should not
oversimplify this out of respect for everyone's perceptions and
viewpoints.  Rayc certainly will need to make a written statement (as
was mentioned at the meeting), which should resolve some of this and
take it to a more factual realm.

- From my understanding, there have been some attempts at NB for
conflict mediation, yet nobody has fully followed through with the
process.  The issues are involved enough that I believe that agreeing
upon a moderator or mediator, in this case, might be appropriate.

Rayc has certainly contributed positively to Sudo and NB, yet there
are certain specific actions and incidents which perhaps still need to
be addressed.



On 01/08/2015 11:55 AM, hol at gaskill.com wrote:
> That's what people felt - we needed more time to establish how he 
> intends to use the space and interact w/ others. Also discussed was
> that really, we should probably take this time for ALL new members
> instead of just giving it a week.
> 
> Please anyone interested consider proposing amendments to our 
> membership process: 
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Section_2.1.0_Process_for_becoming_a_member
>
>  Here are some notes from noisebridge meetings below, just did a
> little digging today
> 
> Banned for 6 months - agrees to stay out for that time: 
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_03_11
> 
> Comes up for perma-ban, which is blocked: 
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_03_18
> 
> Discussion for 2 meetings RE unbanning: 
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_04_22 
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2014_04_29
> 
> Sounds like one of the main people pushing for his ban was also
> banned and/or removed from the 'council' but either way, the
> consensus was that we will proceed with an open mind and listen to
> all the facts.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> On 2015-01-08 11:34, Adam Munich wrote:
> 
>> From what I've gathered from his discussions about it there was
>> apparently some sort of miscommunication between the people
>> running Noisebridge and electricians, which rayc tried to
>> resolve. The people who were supposed to be doing the job didn't
>> like that somehow.
>> 
>> Granted that's only his side of the story and I don't know the
>> other side, but overall rayc has been rather valuable in keeping
>> sudo clean and organized. I feel like it's worth giving him a
>> chance.
>> 
>> Cheers, -Adam On Jan 8, 2015 11:04 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote: 
>> It was already blocked by several people due to some concerns -
>> among them is that he didn't mention the situation RE Noisebridge
>> at all until prompted, which didn't convey a sense of openness
>> and honesty. I believe someone is reaching out to him to get more
>> info on the situation so probably best not to make it the subject
>> of a meeting until there's been a chance to hear everyone out
>> offline. I left at 10:30 so may have missed who that was - if it
>> wasn't delegated to anyone I'll contact him.
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> On 2015-01-08 10:02, Torrie Fischer wrote: Hei, sudo room.
>> 
>> I want to avoid as much conflict as possible here on discuss@ so
>> I'll state up front that I would really rather folks talk to me
>> in person or off list in response to this.
>> 
>> I had every intention of coming to Sudo last night as I
>> infrequently do to see whats up and hack on things and spend more
>> time in the space. My knee disagreed to I went home instead.
>> 
>> Had I made it I would've certainly blocked RAYC's membership.
>> 
>> I plan on showing up at Sudo Room next week to have a legitimate
>> block in person since phoning it in as I'm doing in this e-mail
>> is bullshit and we all know that. I would appreciate it a bunch
>> if others were around to hear me elaborate about my principled
>> objection and give feedback if it has any standing. I also don't
>> think its all that excellent of an idea to try and discuss this
>> on a wednesday night when folks want to just get together and be 
>> positive, so I'll certainly be making more of an effort to be at
>> the space before then for discussion.
>> 
>> Again, I'm not going to respond to this on the list but feel free
>> to poke me off-list or AFK :) 
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