[sudo-discuss] Fwd: Proposed Safe Space Ban: Perry

Tue Feb 3 15:35:58 PST 2015

I like the phrase space-invaded because it just made me think of Space
Invaders which made me think of making a Safe Space top-down shooter video
game, which made me smile.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, *that* dude. So sorry you were space-invaded, Ryan :(
>
> I remember being in the mezzanine when Perry was in the ballroom, reading
> Sarah's report about the incident with him peeking into the Disco Room,
> then overheard him say to someone on the phone about being asked to stop,
> "Dude, I was just looking at this beautiful naked dancer, I mean wow" and
> turning to Matt or Marc, can't recall, and fuming that I'd love to go kick
> that creep out of the space.
>
> Wish I had then. Fully in support of his ban but don't personally have the
> bandwidth to steward a mediation process. I think he might know Gabby from
> Rise Above, or seemed to be helping / around that area some. CC'ing her to
> see if she has his contact info.
>
> /jnny
>
> On 02/03/2015 02:49 PM, David Keenan wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Yes, I agree, this person should persona non grata pending mediation.
> >
> > Perry is an olderish white guy musician who comes around sometimes, much
> of
> > the time seriously drunk it would appear. Being drunk seems to clearly
> > impair his judgement and his actions become invasive to others in the
> ways
> > Ryan describes.
> >
> > My history with him is only the following. I first talked to him a while
> > ago asking him to turn down his electric guitar in the ballroom while a
> > large meeting was taking place in La Commune - he complied. I noticed he
> > really did reek of alcohol. I asked if he volunteered with any
> collective,
> > he said FNB - but he didn't know where the kitchen was, or that there was
> > even a basement, which rang alarm bells for me (ie, it was probably a
> fib.)
> > I later followed up with Helen and Joe and they said they had never heard
> > of him, and that sometimes people 'say' theyre in FNB but aren't really..
> >
> > Anyhow, Perry left the ballroom and wandered upstairs by the kitchen
> above
> > La Commune, now playing the mandolin - 'quietly', yes - but alas still
> > distracting to those in the large meeting below, and I again asked if he
> > could play music in the basement or another room in the building until
> the
> > meeting as finished - he complied, but seemed pretty out of it and not
> > understanding why (drunk).
> >
> > I later found out that while upstairs he was 'peeking' into the Disco
> Room
> > on a dance rehearsal that made those inside feel uncomfortable and Sarah
> > sent an email out to that effect. Next time I saw him, I re-introduced
> > myself, took him up to the dance room and let him know that they require
> > privacy and to not do that. He said he had something of one the dancers
> > inside and was trying to return it to her.. I did not verify whether this
> > was true or not, but since the dancers did not seem to know him, it seems
> > doubtful.
> >
> > Then, one day after that, he was walking into the building and I
> admittedly
> > gave him a bit of a 'side-eye' on the way in because I wasn't sure if he
> > was wasted or what. He himself came up to me and said, "why'd you give me
> > that look?", and I said, it appears you come into the building drunk, and
> > we can't have drunk people in here - you aren't known to our community,
> and
> > I don't know what you will do in that state. I said if you want to get
> > drunk, try not to come here. To his credit he admitted being drunk the
> > aforementioned day, agreed it was unacceptable, and said that wasn't
> going
> > to happen again.
> >
> > But, since it has happened again, to my mind that is grounds to ban him
> > pending mediation that he will have to arrange.
> >
> > Does anyone know him, or have his email?
> >
> > Best,
> > David
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > fwding this to sudo and cdc as well
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Ryan <yandoryn at gmail.com>
> > > Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:59 PM
> > > Subject: Proposed Safe Space Ban: Perry
> > > To: "discuss at lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss at lists.omnicommons.org>,
> > > David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > Perry, who as far as I know is not affiliated with any collective in
> the
> > > space, was at the Omni until late last night. He was heavily
> inebriated and
> > > reeked of alcohol.
> > >
> > > In attempting to talk with me, he got incredibly touchy-feely and
> further
> > > invaded my space, getting so close that I could feel his breath on my
> skin.
> > > I informed him loudly that touch needs to be consensual in the space
> and
> > > that he should ask me before touching me. I told him that the safe
> space
> > > policy is next to the front door and that he should read it. I managed
> to
> > > get away from him, but he followed me outside.
> > >
> > > Ribre (sp?) was outside with her guitar and he sat down next to her,
> > > invaded her space, and tried to strike up a seemingly very
> uncomfortable
> > > conversation. She told him that whatever he was talking about was
> something
> > > that he'd have to deal with on his own, not with her, and that she
> cannot
> > > deal with drunk men, and that they make her unsafe. Instead of ceasing
> the
> > > conversation, he got closer and tried to tell her that they needed to
> > > continue it.
> > >
> > > He continued in this vein for a while longer, until I loudly informed
> him
> > > that the conversation was not consensual and he needed to stop. He
> started
> > > to argue with me, however RAYC was able to defuse Perry and lead him
> away
> > > from the interaction.
> > >
> > > I spoke to Kwe and Juul before they left, to make sure I had backup if
> I
> > > needed to ask Perry to leave the building. Eventually, I was the only
> > > member left in the building, so I asked RAYC to shut down the building
> for
> > > me, and that I was only comfortable vouching for him and Nicholas.
> RAYC got
> > > Perry to leave.
> > >
> > > I spoke with David Keenan this morning, explaining the situation, and
> DK
> > > said that he has spoken to Perry in the past about his behaviour,
> > > specifically his behaviour when under the influence of alcohol. I will
> let
> > > DK speak more to that.
> > >
> > > Is anyone aware of a collective that Perry is involved with? In my
> > > conversation with DK, he said that when he spoke to Perry he said he
> was
> > > with FNB, but was probably lying, as he didn't even know where the
> kitchen
> > > was. Regardless, I ask that Perry be banned from the Omni, pending
> > > mediation, as his actions clearly violate our safe space policy and he
> > > refused to take action to alter his behaviour.
> > >
> > >
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