[sudo-discuss] Electrical work currently being done for La Commune (affecting panel for Kitchen / Upstairs_

David Keenan dkeenan44 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 1 09:26:45 PST 2015


Yes, in other words, you will go up to the panel with the inductive
amplifier and note that for example three adjacent breakers will seem
positive for the signal. It will be one of those three...

On Sunday, February 1, 2015, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, you definitely have to double-check, of course. Easy enough to do: if
> you think you've identified the right breaker, just switch it off and the
> light on the transmitter will go off, and the signal on the line will
> disappear (or not)...
>
> Patrik
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 12:35 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkeenan44 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all your work, Steve!
>>
>> FYI the off the shelf circuit tracers dont really work. You need a really
>> expensive pro one. Saying this from experience in Omni, cause I bought one
>> too. Basically what happens is the trace leaks into other circuits a lot
>> and you get misreadings, so don't put a lot of faith in them - you'll have
>> to physically test'em to be sure.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Steve Bloom <stevebloom55 at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevebloom55 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Patrik, that should come in handy!
>>>
>>> -- Steve
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','patrikd at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> By the way, we do have a circuit tracer in CCL, in case anyone needs
>>>> one. You plug a little gizmo into a live outlet, or clip it onto a set of
>>>> live wires, and it send a small audio signal up through the wire that you
>>>> can detect at the breaker panel.
>>>>
>>>> It's in the drawer labeled "tools" in one of the lab benches. The
>>>> orange gadget is the sensor. the small wall wart device is the transmitter.
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:46 PM, Steve Bloom <stevebloom55 at gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevebloom55 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for posting this, David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cover is on and the tripping problem should now be at least reduced
>>>>> since I was able to split the circuit such that the kitchen and den are on
>>>>> one breaker (now #7) and the hallways on another (#8).  In addition, the LC
>>>>> extension cord (to which the overhead light strings are attached) has been
>>>>> removed from that same circuit and put on #6, which is powering a temporary
>>>>> receptacle in LC that we're also using for our power tools.
>>>>>
>>>>> All nine of the other breakers are turned off since they're no longer
>>>>> doing anything, although I'm unwiring them only after confirming what
>>>>> they're actually attached to.  Most of these were to now-defunct lighting
>>>>> and power circuits in the bar area.  Next week several will be repurposed
>>>>> for new receptacle circuits in LC to be installed along the
>>>>> newly-sheetrocked walls.
>>>>>
>>>>> The note taped to the front of the panel now reflects this new
>>>>> condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of these circuits are going to be hard to trace and if so will be
>>>>> left in place for the time being with the breaker off, so if anyone notices
>>>>> a loss of power to anything that was working as of last week, please let me
>>>>> know.
>>>>>
>>>>> If possible, I'll get the den onto a separate circuit from the kitchen.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:25 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dkeenan44 at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The tireless volunteers Steve Bloom ( stevebloom55 at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevebloom55 at gmail.com');> ) and I
>>>>>> believe Rayc ( what is is email - anyone know? )  are in the midst of
>>>>>> decommissioning electrical runs from to La Commune, from the panel in Rise
>>>>>> Above that also feeds the oft-tripping breaker to the upstairs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All, before touching this panel, please attempt to communicate first
>>>>>> with Steve or Rayc regarding whether it safe to do. Specifically, all,
>>>>>> NEVER reach your hand inside a panel that does not have a cover plate on
>>>>>> (covering the electrical wires and connections), even if it is only to flip
>>>>>> a breaker. Instead, at a minimum, put the cover plate back on first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This panel includes the oft-tripping breaker for the Kitchen and TIL
>>>>>> etc offices - #8, so please pay heed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve showed me that he decommissioned breakers # 7 & 11.
>>>>>> Breakers 3&4 were I believe decomissioned by an electrician hired by
>>>>>> Rise Above.
>>>>>> #8 is the one that always trips and needs to be worked on / rewired
>>>>>> to prevent this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see the photo below for reference.. thanks!
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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