[sudo-discuss] Used lab equipment/furniture?

Mon Sep 8 04:53:41 PDT 2014

*San Pablo Flea Market* 6100 San Pablo Ave Emeryville CA 94608. (510) 922-1371

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On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi Patrick and sudoers,
>
> I’m wondering if anyone knows where to get cheapish used lab equipment and
> furniture like would be used in a bio lab?  Or some that could be borrowed
> for a weekend?  I may need to get hold of these things for an art
> installation.  I’d much appreciate any leads you could throw my way. I’d
> also love to run some ideas by some biologists and get your thoughts, so I
> plan to stop  by CCL sometime really soon.
>
> Tracy
> On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would also like to bring up the topic of upgrading the electrical on the
> CCL side of the hall as well. It sounds like we may need to do all the
> electrical permitting (and/or inspection?) at the same time anyway. So if
> someone can give us a hand getting our upgrade plans in order, that would
> be greatly appreciated! At the very minimum we need to make sure that the
> Sudo upgrades don't get delayed by the slower pace of upgrades on the CCL
> side.
>
> I'd love to help out with some of the hands-on work in Sudo as well, if
> you can use some more relatively unskilled labor - we'll need to learn
> those skills for the CCL side anyway.
>
> CCL hasn't been pushing ahead on electrical upgrades as quickly as Sudo,
> since we have other construction work that needs to be done before we can
> start plugging in a lot of our equipment. We still need to do a thorough
> inventory of how much power we need where, but at a minimum, we will have 3
> or 4 fridge/freezers running continuously, one oven (autoclave), plus two
> or more microwaves and lots of other pieces of equipment that only need
> intermittent power. We would like to install outlets all along the walls,
> and a couple additional outlets (and maybe light fixtures) in the storage
> rooms. And like in Sudo, the suggestion of dropping power cords down from
> one of the rafters has come up as well...
>
> The CCL side of the hall is on a couple of different circuits from Sudo.
> The black wall with all the fridges goes to a single 15A breaker in the
> subpanel on our side of the stage, which is obviously not enough for all of
> the equipment that is currently located along that wall. The two storage
> rooms seem to be fed directly from the main panel in the utility room. And
> the lights in the storage rooms may or may not go to an upstairs panel that
> we don't currently have access to - needs some more investigation (does
> anyone have a circuit breaker tracer we could borrow?)
>
> Anyone willing to give us a hand?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Patrik
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Howdy,
>> Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
>> interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
>> balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
>> the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
>> wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
>> proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
>> Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
>> all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
>> cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
>> hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
>> hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
>> additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
>> $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
>>
>> My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way to
>> do it, if you go the money.
>>
>> A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed near
>> the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
>> transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
>> remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
>> sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
>> to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
>>
>> as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above exist
>> currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the drawings.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Whit
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone.  It's the first time I have looked at these plans and I
>>> have some questions and thoughts.  Dave said he won't be able to respond to
>>> this email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere.
>>>  So I am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely
>>> bring up in the days ahead.
>>>
>>> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans!  For someone who is not
>>> intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
>>> clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
>>> however.
>>>
>>> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
>>> mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
>>> panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
>>> daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
>>> proposed here.   If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
>>> due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
>>> etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>> -Cere
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Thanks Yar!  Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is
>>>> going to be done under the first permit?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Hol
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
>>>> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
>>>> who've been most involved with electrical work.
>>>>
>>>> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1 <https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
>>>> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
>>>> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
>>>> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
>>>> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Cere Davis
>>> ceremona at gmail.com
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