[sudo-discuss] Used lab equipment/furniture?

Fri Sep 5 16:05:50 PDT 2014

Worth checking, but I wouldn't expect too much from Urban Ore. Might get
lucky though...

We're hoping to buy a bunch of lab benches fro CCL, so if anyone sees any,
let us know!

These guys in Sunnyvale seem to have tons of lab benches, but I haven't had
a chance to drop by there yet so I don't know what their prices look like:

 www.btexpressliquidatorsinc.com

Patrik

On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:

> In the past I have seen some lab-like benches, furniture, and cabinetry at
> Urban Ore. It was a while ago and no idea what they might have now.
>
> -steve
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tracy,
>>
>> We may potentially be able to lend you some equipment, if it's just for a
>> temporary exhibit. I've cc'd Matt Harbowy, who currently owns much of our
>> equipment.
>>
>> Feel free to stop by CCL on Tuesday evening, which is when we have our
>> working meetings.
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> PS: We were just discussing the other day whether we should restart doing
>> some experiments with ferrofluid!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick and sudoers,
>>>
>>> I’m wondering if anyone knows where to get cheapish used lab equipment
>>> and furniture like would be used in a bio lab?  Or some that could be
>>> borrowed for a weekend?  I may need to get hold of these things for an art
>>> installation.  I’d much appreciate any leads you could throw my way. I’d
>>> also love to run some ideas by some biologists and get your thoughts, so I
>>> plan to stop  by CCL sometime really soon.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>> On Sep 5, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I would also like to bring up the topic of upgrading the electrical on
>>> the CCL side of the hall as well. It sounds like we may need to do all the
>>> electrical permitting (and/or inspection?) at the same time anyway. So if
>>> someone can give us a hand getting our upgrade plans in order, that would
>>> be greatly appreciated! At the very minimum we need to make sure that the
>>> Sudo upgrades don't get delayed by the slower pace of upgrades on the CCL
>>> side.
>>>
>>> I'd love to help out with some of the hands-on work in Sudo as well, if
>>> you can use some more relatively unskilled labor - we'll need to learn
>>> those skills for the CCL side anyway.
>>>
>>> CCL hasn't been pushing ahead on electrical upgrades as quickly as Sudo,
>>> since we have other construction work that needs to be done before we can
>>> start plugging in a lot of our equipment. We still need to do a thorough
>>> inventory of how much power we need where, but at a minimum, we will have 3
>>> or 4 fridge/freezers running continuously, one oven (autoclave), plus two
>>> or more microwaves and lots of other pieces of equipment that only need
>>> intermittent power. We would like to install outlets all along the walls,
>>> and a couple additional outlets (and maybe light fixtures) in the storage
>>> rooms. And like in Sudo, the suggestion of dropping power cords down from
>>> one of the rafters has come up as well...
>>>
>>> The CCL side of the hall is on a couple of different circuits from Sudo.
>>> The black wall with all the fridges goes to a single 15A breaker in the
>>> subpanel on our side of the stage, which is obviously not enough for all of
>>> the equipment that is currently located along that wall. The two storage
>>> rooms seem to be fed directly from the main panel in the utility room. And
>>> the lights in the storage rooms may or may not go to an upstairs panel that
>>> we don't currently have access to - needs some more investigation (does
>>> anyone have a circuit breaker tracer we could borrow?)
>>>
>>> Anyone willing to give us a hand?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Whitney Lawrence <whitneyel3 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> Let me begin with thanking you for looking at the proposal. Your
>>>> interpretation of the plans is correct.{ Main -> above stage panel ->
>>>> balcony panel } is how the proposed plan is drawn. There is enough room in
>>>> the balcony panel (which is the one located in the small room that shares a
>>>> wall with the server loft of sudoroom) to accomplish phase 1 of the
>>>> proposal. The proposal is based on instruction received to minimize cost.
>>>> Ideally, there would be a main panel breaker that supplies a sub panel for
>>>> all of sudo's needs (phase 1 and phase 2). I can't accurately guess at a
>>>> cost number for this type of installation. Figure a 100amp sub with
>>>> hundreds of feet of 2awg plus breaker box plus breakers plus conduit plus
>>>> hardware. All depending on if the main service can even handle the
>>>> additional power demands (hiring an electrician to run the calcs). Ballpark
>>>> $3-5k maybe- but its really a shot in the dark?
>>>>
>>>> My experience with this type of thing is there is always a better way
>>>> to do it, if you go the money.
>>>>
>>>> A middle road is to plan on having the future sudo-sub panel placed
>>>> near the balcony panel. Build in an extra 5ft or so of wire for the future
>>>> transition into the new sudo-sub panel. All that would be needed is to
>>>> remove the breakers from the old box re-run wire from J-box 1 to the new
>>>> sudo-sub, as well as re-routing the 240V lines from the above stage panel
>>>> to the sudo-sub (and of course preform all the main -> suod-sub work).
>>>>
>>>> as far as existing vs proposed. only the sub panels mentioned above
>>>> exist currently- I'll make a note to call out the existing stuff in the
>>>> drawings.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Whit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone.  It's the first time I have looked at these plans and I
>>>>> have some questions and thoughts.  Dave said he won't be able to respond to
>>>>> this email until a couple of days as he is out in the boonies somewhere.
>>>>>  So I am writing in to expedite some issues that I think he will likely
>>>>> bring up in the days ahead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whit, thanks for drawing up these plans!  For someone who is not
>>>>> intimately familiar with our electrical layout the plans might need a more
>>>>> clear description of existing electrical vs. proposed new electrical,
>>>>> however.
>>>>>
>>>>> In multiple conversations with Dave (and one on-site visit) he has
>>>>> mentioned repeatedly that we will want to shoot for putting in another sub
>>>>> panel for the sudoroom off of the main panel as the end-game; rather than
>>>>> daisy-chaining off of an existing panel (the balcony) as what seems to be
>>>>> proposed here.   If we can't immediately put in a sub panel into the room,
>>>>> due to cost, we should at-least be planning for conduit and wiring paths,
>>>>> etc that allows for a sudoroom sub-panel in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> -Cere
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thanks Yar!  Whit can you liaise w/ Dave RE how much of the work is
>>>>>> going to be done under the first permit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-09-04 23:16, yar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, Dave Pedroli is a certified electrician who's offered to
>>>>>> review our plans to give them an okay. I'm copying him and the people
>>>>>> who've been most involved with electrical work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave, the latest plans are attached, and also available online[1 <https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html>].
>>>>>> Could you please look them over and write us a few formal-sounding
>>>>>> sentences that boil down to "hello I am a real electrician and I say
>>>>>> these plans are solid"? This will help us make the landlord happy so
>>>>>> he will let us do them. Thank you!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://lists.sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-discuss/2014-August/007369.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Cere Davis
>>>>> ceremona at gmail.com
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