[sudo-discuss] dready Sean

[David Keenan]

Kay, thanks jenny!

I figured he was not an official sudoer, but I didn't know who at sudo may
know him better informally, and who may have a better relationship with him
to communicate more effectively with the guy than I could. Matt suggested
Patrick - I just wanted there to be a chance for someone to speak up for
him or perhaps offer some explanation for him outside of what I could
fathom or talk to him themselves -

FWIW, at the time, I did ask him to leave.. and if he comes back, I'll do
the same.

rock n roll
David

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> This person is not a sudoer (and I don't think I've met him), but you are!
> And as such, empowered to ask anyone to leave at any time, for any reason,
> and they must stay away for 12 hours unless another member vouches for them.
>
> Perhaps sudo or the 'how we organize' wg should propose that Omni also
> adopt the following:
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Article_5._Empowerment_of_members
>
> Jenny
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> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> He is not on the list of members: https://sudoroom.org/crm/
>>
>> Any member can check the list of members in the future, and if you forgot
>> your password you can reset it with your email address here:
>> https://sudoroom.org/crm/index.php?q=reset
>>
>> // Matt
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:14 PM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> The sean I am speaking of is not the awesome sean of Spaz fame here, but
>>> the guy with dreads.
>>>
>>> A lot of us have known him from around, for a while. I've seen him
>>> crashing at various group houses and generally around since about 2006
>>> going back to Apgar days, if anyone remembers that house.
>>>
>>> He says he is a sudoer, although I am not sure if he is or ain't. I
>>> suspect he ain't.
>>>
>>> I know Sean has cognitive difficulties, but after watching him dump
>>> about a pint of coffee on the ground and simply refuse to take any time
>>> to clean it up because he had 'other priorities', I am not happy to have
>>> him sharing our space.
>>>
>>> After Niki and I confronted him after much - much - haranguing, he
>>> eventually got a mop and cleaned it up, yelling at me about some total
>>> nonsequitur like how I should care more about Max from FNB being hurt than
>>> him cleaning up his own mess (as it happens I drove Max to hospital the
>>> other day right after that happened, but whatever.)
>>>
>>> This is the second time I have had to confront sean about something like
>>> this while I have barely been around this last month, but I suspect a lot
>>> people don't engage with him when stuff like that happens, so I'm
>>> guessing it probably happens frequently.
>>>
>>> Since he identifies with sudo, I would like to ask Sean to come to a
>>> Sudo meeting where he can can be informed as to the the general attitude of
>>> respect towards the space and people in it. If anyone can mention this to
>>> him or if you know his email?
>>>
>>> I would like to ask that Sean be unwelcome here until he does come to a
>>> sudo meeting. If he is not a sudoer but a guest of a sudoer, I would like
>>> to know who will be responsible for dude when he is here, cleaning up after
>>> him, etc.
>>>
>>> I do not think sean is a bad person, just totally in his own
>>> world really, and because of that self-centeredness, mental issues or not,
>>> he is just uncaring about how he treats others and his environment. I can't
>>> believe he expected others, on their hands and knees stocking the fridge
>>> full of donated food, to clean up his own mess that he basically pored
>>> right in front of them to kneel in. It's just not at all cool.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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