[sudo-discuss] [Shelter] Tiny houses made for homeless in West Oak

Tue Nov 4 13:30:56 PST 2014

Here's a link to a few images of a low cost "Tiny Home" concept based on
truck camper RV's which are available for free or very cheap:
https://plus.google.com/u/1/photos/106839673035751587991/albums/6077960785548996769

The catch is that the jacks used to raise and lower these campers are no
longer functional due to structural issues with the wood frame. So I
devised a way in which the camper can be rolled onto the back of a car
trailer and then rolled off onto a wood platform foundation. You can see
this in some of the attached images.

One advantage of the truck camper is that it is not technically a "RV"
since it has no wheels plus it is less than 120 square ft. So if you have a
property to put one of these on then no permit is required. However, people
absolutely hate these things so I modify it to make it look like a small
shed.

I have two of these tiny homes setup now, one in Marin near China Camp and
another in the NE corner of California on a 10 acre farm. There's also an
image included of a tent cabin which is technically a "fabric covered
agricultural processing structure" in the eyes of the law. The land use is
described as a "Tree Sanctuary" where we rescue small endangered trees and
reintroduce them into the wild, hence the justification for occupying the
property which we own freely with no mortgage or other banking encumbrances.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Autonomous <autonomous666 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I attached a few images of a low cost "Tiny Home" concept based on truck
> camper RV's which are available for free or very cheap. The catch is that
> the jacks used to raise and lower these campers are no longer functional
> due to structural issues with the wood frame. So I devised a way in which
> the camper can be rolled onto the back of a car trailer and then rolled off
> onto a wood platform foundation. You can see this in some of the attached
> images.
>
> One advantage of the truck camper is that it is not technically a "RV"
> since it has no wheels plus it is less than 120 square ft. So if you have a
> property to put one of these on then no permit is required. However, people
> absolutely hate these things so I modify it to make it look like a small
> shed.
>
> I have two of these tiny homes setup now, one in Marin near China Camp and
> another in the NE corner of California on a 10 acre farm. There's also an
> image attached of a tent cabin which is technically a "fabric covered
> agricultural processing structure" in the eyes of the law. The land use is
> described a "Tree Sanctuary" where we rescue small endangered trees and
> reintroduce them into the wild, hence the justification for occupying the
> property which we own freely with no mortgage or other banking encumbrances.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM, <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>>  whoa spaced out there...yeah it's been a while!  early DEC sound good?
>> I've been doing alot of scheming but near zero construction.  I think it'd
>> be cool to actually build something, like a 4'x4'x8' sleeping/storage
>> module simple enough that 5-10 people could make a prototype in a weekend.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2014-11-04 12:06, Cris Shirley wrote:
>>
>>  Hello Tiny House Crew!
>>
>> What's the latest on the Tiny House Caucus and Shelter planning for an
>> East Bay Tiny House village/trailer park.
>>
>> I'm looking to get a tiny house soon and want to see where others are at
>> and if we have any movement that I've missed out on over the summer.
>>
>> I'd love to get a meeting together if others are interested.  Looks like
>> the East Bay Tiny House meetup group has one scheduled for December 21st,
>> but another one sooner and less in conflict with holiday time would be
>> great too!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>  Cris Shirley
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>>
>>> we had a meeting maybe 2 months ago RE building a fleet of trailerable
>>> tiny homes, probably overdue for another.
>>>
>>> Here is a list set up for discussion of tiny homes, including
>>> construction, social justice / housing, property search, all aspects of the
>>> discussion: https://tentacle.net/mailman/listinfo/shelter  however
>>> there hasn't been that much traffic yet.  Seems like we should start
>>> hashing out some details and getting people organized a bit into whatever
>>> aspects of the tiny home movement they are most interested in hacking on.
>>>
>>> just made a pad with the minutes from the first and so far only meeting
>>> that i know of - https://pad.riseup.net/p/TinyHomeCaucus feel free to
>>> just flesh out the minutes and add your thoughts wherever as it's just a
>>> loose list of topics.
>>>
>>> I should have some open bandwidth in the next few weeks - anyone for
>>> meeting up to discuss?  Last meeting was at a bar, would propose to do same
>>> for next.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> hol
>>>
>>> Mar 6, 2014 10:00:42 PM, owens.marcus at gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hey all- I think this topic is super important given the gentrification
>>> and housing crisis in our area, the increasing eviction of encampments such
>>> as at the recent clearing of the camp at the southend of lake merritt
>>> around the convention center, etc. I think there's also a lot of potential
>>> to go beyond the sculptural practice of this guys work given organizing
>>> networks and capacities of a place like sudo, not to mention the temperate
>>> climate of the bay area. Could this conversation be worthy of some sort of
>>> "Right to the City/Hack the City" working group? Would love to connecting
>>> with others interested in developing this conversation..
>>>
>>> >a priori, a few potentially relevant precedents from the arch/design
>>> world:
>>> >
>>> >Materials:
>>> >Superuse Studios: cataloging waste materials from industrial ecologies
>>> to be used for building projects.
>>> http://superuse-studios.com/index.php/category/platforms/
>>> >
>>> >Construction:
>>> >Architect Teddy Cruz has been working on developing frameworks for safe
>>> informal/DIY housing in Tijuana/San Diego.
>>>
>>> http://www.california-architects.com/en/estudio/projects-3/Manufactured_Sites-4453
>>> >
>>> >Landscape/Site:
>>>
>>> >Urban Code: UC berkeley project to catalog and network interstitial
>>> city-owned land in SF.http://nicholas.demonchaux.com/Work/local-code
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >m
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Vicky Knox vknoxsironi at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >Heh glad this thread is so popular! Any response yet from this guy? On
>>> a related note, I'm part of a listserv* where talk of tiny houses has been
>>> really hot. Let me know if you want access.
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> *Spaghetti Night. It is a great portal into (one of) the Berkeley
>>> co-op/weirdo universe(s).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >2014-03-03 10:06 GMT-08:00 Hol Gaskill hol at gaskill.com>:
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >hah the look on his face must've been priceless!  i was scheming on
>>> said conestoga wagon, decided to get a few flatbeds under my belt first.
>>> hopefully have something to report on this month!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> hol
>>>
>>> on Mar 02, 2014, Gabrielle Silverman gabbywingnut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> Hey it's definitely real, I know somebody who got one of the tiny houses.
>>>
>>> Also on the "what if... occupy" tip I was once involved with a community
>>> garden in the south bronx that kept getting bulldozed and rebuilt over and
>>> over. Kicking off one of the re-occupations we built a little cassita in
>>> pieces in another garden around the corner and then carried it all over and
>>> screwed it together one night to announce the rebirth of the encampment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best moment was dude from the city the first morning talking into his
>>> cell phone: "They have a house. I repeat a HOUSE. They're more organized
>>> than we thought they were..."
>>>
>>> gabby
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2014 5:54 PM, "Chris Bee" hotelcompany at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'm not calling shenanigans, but...I haven't seen any of these around,
>>> and I spend a lot of time in WSO. Should I call that number and volunteer
>>> my services? Assuming the article's legit and not just a puff piece, this
>>> sounds like a project that sudo should be working with.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> >Even if it's BS, I recall someone- quite possibly from sudo- mentioning
>>> a bike trailer/Conestoga wagon type thing that sounded pretty cool. I don't
>>> remember whether they built it or were planning to build it...anyone?
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> -chrisbee
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