[sudo-discuss] [Mesh] Fwd: Re: Server Room Status

Luis Murillo luis.murillo.plos at gmail.com
Sun Jul 6 18:51:56 PDT 2014


Hey guys sorry I've been MIA today, been running some errands/TCB will
swing by sudo later tonight and monday night :-)


On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Somebody <somebody at riseup.net> wrote:

>
> Excuse me for resending this email treat, but the Sudo-mesh list was not
> linked from the first email that I sent out.
>
> Thx!
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Re: [sudo-discuss] Server Room Status
> Date:   Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:12:03 -0700
> From:   hol at gaskill.com
> To:     David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com>
> CC:     sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>
>
>
>  >the compressor for that could also provide cooling for the servers.
> i think doing experiments on heat recovery and regenerative hx are good
> for longterm - using a compressor and refrigerant to cool hot things may
> be less green than using fans and just circulating fresh cool air and
> letting convection do the work.  if there's no objection, we could set
> up temp racks where daniel and others propose until we can run coax to a
> more optimal area.  i finally have some time this week so i'll be around
> to assist with low-level tasks in support of setting up basic
> infrastructure
>
> cheers
>
>
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> On 2014-07-06 10:00, David Keenan wrote:
>
> > hey guys,
> >
> >
> > I applaud the effort to find a good, secure server space! I definitely
> > wanna help.
> >
> > The main issue with using this particular room is, as you can see by
> > looking at the floorplan, the Backspace wellness collective is
> > already paying rent on that particular area (NW groundfloor
> > corner) and will be making their own changes to that space. Backspace
> > is myself, Andrew of course, Margaretha, Athena, and Sarah.
> >
> > The wellness collective needs quiet - thats partly an attraction for
> > that corner of the building - and, a cabinet full of fans plus almost
> > certainly AC for the cabinet, is loud. Also, it takes up Backspace,
> > and to be honest, i have hard time inamagining Sudo wont need to get
> > into it alla the time, so it seems nonideal to me.
> >
> > In general I would think, before using other essentially non-shared
> > areas of the building for Sudo's servers, we would have to
> > actually rule out why building the room in other locations, like Sudo
> > room, wouldnt work, and why we think actually that particular location
> > in someone else's area is really the only place it could work.
> >
> > Regardless of Bsckspace, having racked & stacked for going on 20 years
> > that would not be my first location in the entire building for a lot
> > of reasons.
> >
> > Also, a server cabinet / closet does not need to be near the main
> > electrical panel. Nor does it does not need to be near the street.
> >
> > We could find a room in the basement. There is excellent ventilation
> > to the basement, that just needs a small fix. Also the furnaces are in
> > the basement, and heat from the servers could tap into that venting to
> > actually help heat the building, which could save on energy. Also,
> > there is a plan to build a walk-in in the basement - the compressor
> > for that could also provide cooling for the servers.
> >
> > In other words, in my view, we should attempt a green solution that
> > ties the serbers into the infrastructure for the building.
> >
> > :)
> > d
> >
> > On Saturday, July 5, 2014, Somebody <somebody at riseup.net> wrote:
> >
> > === SERVER ROOM UPDATES ===
> > 2014/07/05:
> > Today Luis, Matt, and I did the walk in the building, and so far the
> > only place that seems the
> > most appropriate to have the server room is the room by the bar.
> >
> > This area is the most ideal in the whole building because the air
> > flow,
> > temperature, electricity proximity, and also because it is where the
> > Internet access enters the building.
> >
> > Since this area is not is not part of the SudoRoom space, we will have
> > to talk about it with the rest of the Sudo-Mesh group and the group
> > approves it, then we would have to present the idea at our
> > Omni Collective meeting for approval.
> >
> > If approved by the Omni Collective, we would need to build:
> >
> > * A 2" or so high floor (two by fours and plywood would do, I believe.
> > * A 55" x 65" cage with chicken wire walls and a door.
> >
> > If this place is NOT approved by the OOC then perhaps we should
> > consider
> > building the Server Room in the SudoRoom Space. High temperature and
> > noise levels are the main issues.
> >
> > If others have ideas/comments/or want to be part of this process
> > please
> > jump in. You may contact Matt, Luis, or myself (Daniel).
> >
> > This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
> > https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Network/Reboot
> >
> >
> > This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
> > https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Network/Reboot
> >
> > Thx!
> >
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