[sudo-discuss] Server Room Status

Andrew andrew at roshambomedia.com
Sun Jul 6 10:17:14 PDT 2014


On Jul 6, 2014 10:16 AM, "Andrew Lowe" <andrew at lostways.com> wrote:

> If the main issue is Backspace I have serious doubts to the usefulness of
> the utility room to Backspace. There are too many issues to list here. But
> the main one would be the electrical panels. Also that room is not
> particularly quiet given its proximity to the bar area.
>
> Personally, I would rather leave that room as shared space and focus on
> the two far back rooms, the storage room, and the second floor. This is
> just my opinion, not an official backspace decision.
>
> I would like to be having regular meetings with CCL, Sudo, and maybe TIL
> about how we can share space. It's really important too me, at this point
> in the game, to not fall on calling dibs on space as a way to build our
> community.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>  On Jul 6, 2014 10:00 AM, "David Keenan" <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hey guys,
>>
>> I applaud the effort to find a good, secure server space! I definitely
>> wanna help.
>>
>> The main issue with using this particular room is, as you can see by
>> looking at the floorplan, the Backspace wellness collective is
>> already paying rent on that particular area (NW groundfloor corner) and
>> will be making their own changes to that space. Backspace is myself, Andrew
>> of course, Margaretha, Athena, and Sarah.
>>
>> The wellness collective needs quiet - thats partly an attraction for that
>> corner of the building - and, a cabinet full of fans plus almost
>> certainly AC for the cabinet, is loud. Also, it takes up Backspace, and to
>> be honest, i have hard time inamagining Sudo wont need to get into it alla
>> the time, so it seems nonideal to me.
>>
>> In general I would think, before using other essentially non-shared areas
>> of the building for Sudo's servers, we would have to actually rule out why
>> building the room in other locations, like Sudo room, wouldnt work, and why
>> we think actually that particular location in someone else's area is
>> really the only place it could work.
>>
>> Regardless of Bsckspace, having racked & stacked for going on 20 years
>> that would not be my first location in the entire building for a lot of
>> reasons.
>>
>> Also, a server cabinet / closet does not need to be near the main
>> electrical panel. Nor does it does not need to be near the street.
>>
>> We could find a room in the basement. There is excellent ventilation to
>> the basement, that just needs a small fix. Also the furnaces are in the
>> basement, and heat from the servers could tap into that venting to actually
>> help heat the building, which could save on energy. Also, there is a plan
>> to build a walk-in in the basement - the compressor for that could also
>> provide cooling for the servers.
>>
>> In other words, in my view, we should attempt a green solution that ties
>> the serbers into the infrastructure for the building.
>>
>> :)
>> d
>>
>> On Saturday, July 5, 2014, Somebody <somebody at riseup.net> wrote:
>>
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>>> === SERVER ROOM UPDATES ===
>>> 2014/07/05:
>>> Today Luis, Matt, and I did the walk in the building, and so far the
>>> only place that seems the
>>> most appropriate to have the server room is the room by the bar.
>>>
>>> This area is the most ideal in the whole building because the air flow,
>>> temperature, electricity proximity, and also because it is where the
>>> Internet access enters the building.
>>>
>>> Since this area is not is not part of the SudoRoom space, we will have
>>> to talk about it with the rest of the Sudo-Mesh group and the group
>>> approves it, then we would have to present the idea at our
>>> Omni Collective meeting for approval.
>>>
>>> If approved by the Omni Collective, we would need to build:
>>>
>>> * A 2" or so high floor (two by fours and plywood would do, I believe.
>>> * A 55" x 65" cage with chicken wire walls and a door.
>>>
>>> If this place is NOT approved by the OOC then perhaps we should consider
>>> building the Server Room in the SudoRoom Space. High temperature and
>>> noise levels are the main issues.
>>>
>>> If others have ideas/comments/or want to be part of this process please
>>> jump in. You may contact Matt, Luis, or myself (Daniel).
>>>
>>> This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
>>> https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Network/Reboot
>>>
>>>
>>> This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
>>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Network/Reboot
>>>
>>> Thx!
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