[sudo-discuss] Fwd: The Omni

[Eddan Katz]

My apologies if my message was not clear. Apparently, from the off- 
line questions I've gotten - it came off that I was saying that Sudo  
Room was leaving 2141 at the end of December. That is not necessarily  
what I was saying. We are currently on a month-to-month lease and  
could decide within a months notice (or less if we offer a replacement  
tenant) to move anyhow.  Out of courtesy, I was telling George 3  
months in advance that there have been enough discussions on the list  
and active efforts at looking at other places that it would only make  
sense to re-visit the terms of the lease and re-negotiate another one  
for the beginning of Jan. 2014.

Both Matt and I are currently listed as individuals on the lease as  
well as Sudo Room. A new lease, under whatever permutation it happens  
to be, would have Sudo Room only as the lessee.

Or better yet, as far as I'm concerned - a joint entity that joins the  
forces of BAPS, SUDO, CCL, etc, etc. - as co-operative leaders in a  
new venture.


On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:05 PM, David Keenan wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> Regarding leaving 2141 and scoping out new spaces..
>
> I was hoping someone could fill me in on what is really meant by  
> deciding we are officially 'terminating the lease' in Dec. ?
>
> Does it mean we are definitely out of 2141 come Jan., ie, we  
> definitely dont want to stay at 2141? Has that been decided?
>
> Or, would we have the opportunity to negotiate a new/better lease if  
> we did decide to keep on at 2141?
>
> Re: a co-op purchase of part of 2141, what are the brass tacks of  
> that exactly? I..e, do we have however many tens of thousands I  
> imagine we would need for most mortgage downpayments? Is there some  
> angel investor here I dunno about?
>
> Along the same lines what are our real-world options with respect  
> buying the church, or part of the Omni? Or are we just talking about  
> renting part of the omni?
>
> Personally, I'd prefer to move, but move with BAPS, SUDO, and CCL.  
> It kind of seems like maybe we should find a good place to move to,  
> and understand what our combined budget is. if SUDO moves out  
> without BAPS that would suck for BAPS and also mean that SUDO would  
> probably get a smaller space than we would get if we combined  
> forces, synchronized, and all moved somewhere together (or mayber  
> stayed at 2141 together, under more amenable conditions). Staying  
> together being the operative word to me here..
>
> Best.
> David
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Marina Kukso  
> <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Half the room will still be avavilable, and could be Sudo's for  
> approx $2k/month.
> How many square feet are we getting in exchange for that $2k?
>
> *It is 10 minutes walk from McArthur BART
>
> That's not too bad, obviously closer is better, and MacArthur is not  
> a very safe area at night, but it's oakland, what are you gonna do
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Tracy Jacobs  
> <kinetical at comcast.net> wrote:
> You do realize that's very close to Ace Monster Toys?  If Sudo room  
> moves up to the Berkeley Border, it would make sense to join with  
> Ace Monster Toys.  Also, in my opinion that is way too far from  
> Bart, and way too far from where I live, so I would probably not  
> ever go there.
>
> Sounds like an interesting space though, and that is a better  
> neighborhood than where AMT is now.  Maybe they would be interested  
> in this space?
>
> Tracy
>
> It's 1.4 mi away, which is relatively close, though not a super  
> convenient walking distance. However they are looking for bigger  
> cheaper spaces (minimum 3000 sq ft, and at most $1/sqft), so I'm not  
> sure this would work. Also they have a requirement that anything  
> over 2500sqft MUST have overhead sprinklers. That combined with the  
> noise constraints might be an issue, since AMT has lots of big noisy  
> toys (large CNC router tables, laser cutters, power saws, etc)
>
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