[sudo-discuss] Landlord tried to kick out sudo-kids

Eddan Katz eddan at clear.net
Sat Sep 21 10:50:07 PDT 2013


As I mentioned at the meeting this past week, dropping the current lease would allow us to all have input on the terms that we've talked about. 
We can enter a new lease (with Sudo Room as lessee) at 2141 Broadway and/or wherever satellite groups set up.

Regarding children, and with no bearing on the appropriateness of George's behavior, liability issues become more extreme when kids are involved, emotionally and financially. There are additional municipal requirements too - registration, safety measures, etc. - that would need to be met. I will look into what those things are. Presumably, most landlords will try to shift most of that responsibility to the renters in the leasing agreement. 

 
On Sep 21, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lol what a curmudgeon. We'll tell stories and laugh about these incidents in our new space?
> 
> On Sep 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "Morten H. D. Fuglsang" <vallebo at gmail.com> wrote:
> This makes me sad. :(
> 
> Make a great day,
> Morten H. D. Fuglsang
> US: +1 415 799 6931 // skype: FlyvendeHest
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
> also thank you to everyone who was there and talked him down.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com> wrote:
> this is really awful and i feel horrible that everyone (children and adults) had to be exposed to this. can anyone confirm whether we received any emails from laurie to this effect?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sudo-kids was off to a quiet start with some piano lessons and food
> preparation when our landlord came in yelling "everybody out! all kids
> out! no kids! everybody under 18 leave the building!" He claims that 2
> weeks ago, Laurie sent all tenants an email to the effect of children
> being generally unwelcome. We talked him into backing down for
> tonight, but not before the kids were exposed to a lot of abusive
> behavior and language, sadly.
> 
> Some reasons he cited were:
> 
>  * Lack of insurance
>  * We don't pay for the common space, or not enough
>  * A recent sudo-kids event where a gross mess was left in the bathroom.
>  * A (perhaps related) event where kids were smashing something with a ball (?)
> 
> He also provided a new and different interpretation of his birthday
> proceedings, namely that furniture and things "temporarily" removed
> would perhaps not return afterwards.
> 
> Interactions with him are always difficult. As usual, his concerns are
> real, but his way of communicating them absolutely unacceptable. His
> willingness to take a room full of children of all ages down this
> well-worn path of abusive tirade leaves me especially demoralized.
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