[sudo-discuss] noisebridge throwing out Scanning Electron Microscope etc
Rich Jones
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Tue Sep 17 15:08:55 PDT 2013
> noisebridge is no longer a hackerspace
???
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> perhaps you heard
>
> noisebridge is no longer a hackerspace and is emptying out the science
> room (where the SEM was) to make room for a radio studio or dj booth or
> something. ball pit.
>
> miloh will be moving the SEM to a safe location but if you want to help
> make sure no pieces get lost maybe you can help. there are tiny boxes with
> filaments in them and an ultrasonic cleaner, probably scattered around the
> trash pile thats forming at nb now. they are doing a dump run thursday.
> the SEM got moved out of its safe place without a single email about it to
> anyone that i know of.
>
> so help miloh find all the SEM pieces before its too late!
>
> -jake
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>>
>> Instead of taking the Noisebridge SEM, I have a great idea...
>>
>> Let's get another SEM!
>>
>> One of the problems with the Noisebridge SEM is that the community of SEM
>> experts is too small. So let's enlarge that community
>> by getting another.
>>
>> If you do get the Noisebridge SEM, NB will be out of a significant
>> resource and its repair and operation are likely to fall on
>> the same exact shoulders. You will also encounter ALL of the same
>> problems that NB has encountered and will need to go to extreme
>> effort to build infrastructure around the microscope (which we haven't
>> completed).
>>
>> I have a lead on another SEM that would be free. They aren't as rare as
>> you might think.
>>
>> In my previous e-mail, which may not have been posted to the sudo room
>> list yet (I'm not a list member), I didn't understand that
>> there was a plan afoot to take the NB SEM (which technically does not
>> belong to NB anyway, it's on loan). I thought that someone
>> named Dr. X was going to donate another SEM to sudo room. I generally
>> disapprove of dismantling Noisebridge resources.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 15:25, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Great thanks Jake, we're working on the space thing for CCL and
>> hoping to have one in the nearish term... it's kind
>> of like the early days of Sudo Room when we talked on and on about
>> getting a space... until we finally got one :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> it is currently in a relatively safe place, especially considering
>> that moving it is the most dangerous thing
>> to it. So it should stay where it is until a new place is chosen
>> for it.
>>
>> Since Sudoroom doesn't have enough room for it and CCL has NO room
>> yet, moving it will have to wait.
>>
>> However, i know of a pickup truck that can be used to move it if
>> and when the time comes.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jake, It looks like we may have to rent a uhaul truck
>> to move it as it looks large?
>> Sounds like Ben has a place for us to store it and we have
>> another Counter Culture labs
>> co-founder/member (Shanee) who knows how to use it and said
>> she could teach us :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Benjamin Lack <
>> benlack at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It looks like it would be fine sitting in a garage for
>> a few months, if so, I have space.
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <
>> patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> That would be excellent!
>>
>> Here's the user manual with all the specs:
>>
>> https://www.noisebridge.net/**images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_**
>> Manual-Troubleshooting-**Reference_Guide.pdf<https://www.noisebridge.net/images/c/c7/ISI_Mini-TV_SEM_Manual-Troubleshooting-Reference_Guide.pdf>
>>
>> It's a desktop machine, so doesn't necessarily take up any
>> more space than some bio equipment.
>> Wonder how easy it would be to DIY a gold sputterer...
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> I'm sure that Dr. X would be very pleased if it went to
>> Counter Culture Labs. He just wants
>> it to be understood and appreciated, rather than sitting
>> neglected. CCL should hurry up and buy the church
>> building before the price goes up on it,
>> and I can help transport it.
>>
>> It is basically an equipment rack and a cart of
>> accessories, so it doesn't take up a ton of
>> room. But it's good to be able to set the microscope and
>> vacuum pump on different structures so that the
>> vibration of the pump doesn't shake the
>> scope. Also, to take higher resolution pictures it will be
>> necessary to construct an analog data importer but that
>> will likely just be a computer with a
>> slightly modified sound card and some software.
>>
>> keep in mind that to view organic (nonmetallic) things
>> you will need a gold sputterer.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jake,
>> I'd be very happy to help transport the scanning
>> electron microscope and if
>> it can't fit into Sudo Room, I'd also love to
>> float the idea of potentially
>> housing it at Counter Culture Labs (the Sudo room
>> DIY Bio offshoot) when we
>> eventually open up. Any thoughts?
>>
>> How big is the SEM (I know some of them can be
>> huge which might prohibit
>> location)?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Ryan
>>
>> Best,
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jake <
>> jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> sudoroom is being offered a scanning
>> electron microscope (by Dr.
>> X).
>>
>> it comes with all the stuff and actually
>> works, but it requires
>> a bit of knowledge to operate it.
>> unfortunately Mr. X is not
>> available to train us how to operate it,
>> however Chris Murphy
>> may be available and knows how it works.
>>
>> It would take up about 30 square feet of
>> space including the
>> place where the operators sit or stand. It
>> is not computerized
>> like the one at Pumping Station One, it is
>> an analog machine.
>> Pictures can be taken at high resolution
>> by long-exposure photo
>> of the CRT on the front of the machine, or
>> we can build an
>> analog data importer to reconstruct images
>> at much higher
>> resolution if we desire.
>>
>> The cash price of this SEM is $10 in gas
>> and tolls, I will
>> provide the vehicle and movement. The rest
>> of the price of the
>> machine in blood and sacrifice is in the
>> time and energy to
>> learn its intricicies and idiosynchracies
>> while learning about
>> vacuum pumps and vacuum oil, and how not to
>> let vacuum oil
>> contaminate your vacuum and get all over
>> your filament.
>>
>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/**SEM<https://noisebridge.net/wiki/SEM>
>>
>> ironically, one of the reasons it doesn't
>> work as well at
>> noisebridge is because the whole place
>> shakes when the city
>> buses ride by. and sudoroom is apparently
>> directly over the
>> bart tunnel so i wonder how different it
>> will be.
>>
>> -jake
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