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> 1. Hacker exchange program + Knownodes (dor garbash)
> 2. Awesome Wednesday drop in (Romy Snowyla)
> 3. defining our membership: notes, next steps, and what's at
> stake (Marina Kukso)
> 4. Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Romy Snowyla)
> 5. Re: Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday
> (Gregg Horton)
> 6. Re: Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday
> (Andrey Fedorov)
> 7. Re: Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group on Thursday
> (Gregg Horton)
> 8. Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh (Marc Juul)
> 9. Re: Incident Saturday (johanna faust)
> 10. Apple's new fingerprint ID and the 5th amendment (Jonathan levin)
> 11. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh
> (Matthieu Tourne)
> 12. Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Patrick Schmidt)
> 13. Re: Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Marina Kukso)
> 14. Re: Incident Saturday (Andrew)
> 15. Re: Incident Saturday (Hol Gaskill)
> 16. foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat (Praveen Sinha)
> 17. Re: Incident Saturday (Andrew)
> 18. Re: Pinnacle of cultural diversity (Patrick Schmidt)
> 19. Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh
> (Marc Juul)
> 20. Re: foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat (Patrik D'haeseleer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:38:43 +0200
> From: dor garbash <dor.garbash at gmail.com>
> To: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Hacker exchange program + Knownodes
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> Dear Sudoers,
>
> Thank you all so much for hosting me, I'm already making plans towards a
> second visit :)
>
> Being the first guest of the hacker exchange program, I'm passing the torch
> -
> anyone interested in to be hosted by me and the CRI in Paris? Just drop me
> a line.
>
> Regarding Knownodes, we have already began a concrete collaboration: The
> development of the public API for Knownodes, initiated by Matt:
> https://github.com/CyberCRI/KnowNodes/issues/56
>
> Interested in contributing with the API, or other aspects of the project?
> Here are a couple of ways to contribute if you're interested:
>
> * Help with code, design or communication by joining a hackathon we will be
> organising in November. The hackathon will happen in an old monastery in
> the french countryside that has been converted into an anarchist workplace
> for artists and hackers. It's as awesome as it sounds, and I might be able
> to subsidise travel and staying costs.
>
> * Help spread the word by organising a Knownodes workshop to map a problem,
> an open question or a project. I will help you out with workshop material,
> advice feedback etc'.
>
> * If you wish to stay informed about the project join our list.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/knownodes
>
> And don't forget: http://i.imgur.com/CyQKlTC.gif
>
> Health and happiness,
>
> Dor
>
>
> --
> Get some insight of what makes me tick:
> My twitter <https://twitter.com/#!/garbash>
> Knownodes blog <http://knownodes.tumblr.com/>
>
> Dor Garbash
> 108 Rue du faubourg du temple, Paris 75011
> +33-652919878
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> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:14:52 -0700
> From: Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com>
> To: Sudo Room Discussion List <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Awesome Wednesday drop in
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> What an amazing Wednesday drop in. There were all these new people talking non stop in some kind of amazing math amazing ness
>
> The Noisebridge people were there too and they were doing cross pollination
>
> I felt all these multi cultural ethnic tolerant vibes as people emerged from the public school. What genuine passion! Sudo room is just amazing
>
> And then I walked down the street past the amazing burger joint. There is an amazing taco place and all this amazing culture and nightlife . It's just all so positive. How truly inSpiratiknal
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 03:49:14 -0700
> From: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
> To: "sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org"
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> Subject: [sudo-discuss] defining our membership: notes, next steps,
> and what's at stake
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> hi all,
>
> we've been trying to figure out who is a member and how we determine
> membership for a long time. we have not yet come up with a resolution.
> although we keep (miraculously) making the rent, we are severely
> constrained in our ability to expand (expand our space, become a nonprofit,
> etc.) by not having good answers to key questions like "who is a member,"
> "how do people become new members," and "how do people continue to be
> members." we have explored a lot of ideas but no proposal has had the
> support of enough people to allow us to move forward.
>
> there was apparently a great discussion about membership at a meeting a few
> weeks ago which i sadly missed. unfortunately it was not super-well
> documented, so with marc's help, i've tried to represent some of what got
> discussed.
>
> so, here are the notes (marc and others who were there, please add if i
> missed anything or correct things if they're wrong):
>
> - people at the meeting agreed that membership should be based on *
> contribution* to the space and *trust*.
>
> - it's unclear what the mechanisms are for determining contribution and
> verifying trust.
>
> - here are the mechanisms for contribution that were discussed:
> -- people agreed that there should be space for financial and non-financial
> contributions. (personal note: our community as a whole has agreed on this
> since our founding, but we get tripped up when starting to think through
> the details of how something like this would work. we have not yet found a
> solution to this problem.)
> -- some folks proposed a member sign off (eg a member signs off on the
> contribution you've made to the space, or you report it yourself)
>
> - here are the mechanisms for trust that were discussed:
> -- noisebridge model: 3 existing members vouch for a person who is applying
> to be a member. (also discussed was lowering it to 1 existing member with 3
> being seen as too high).
>
> - a guiding idea was that it should be easy to become a member and easy to
> revoke membership if trust was violated and/or contributions are not made.
>
> - additionally people were generally in agreement that membership should
> provide access to the space (door access) and access to sudo room resources.
>
>
> with those two issues as the standing problems that need to be resolved,
> people agreed to propose and share as many different mechanisms for
> verifying contribution and trust as they could come up with.
>
> so..please add here or on the wiki at
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Sudo_room/membership.
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> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:53:39 -0700
> From: Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com>
> To: Sudo Room Discussion List <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Pinnacle of cultural diversity
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> It is so awesome to see Sudoroom as a pinnacle of cultural diversity. There is no tokenism here or random Asian women shoved into showcase roles. It is truly a place where open minded people mix freely showing their diversity and superiority to any capital it's systems and stick it to the man
>
> Rock on!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:30:56 -0700
> From: Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com>
> To: Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group
> on Thursday
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> Just a reminder we are meeting tonight, I don't expect to go over much
> material tonight, but we should come up with how we want to structure our
> meetings. I haven't started the homework yet and i'm only a little over
> half way through this week's lectures.
>
> 6pm at the suddddoooooorooooommmmmmmmm
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just signed up for the class. Won't make it this thursday evening, but
>> should be able to come in the following weeks.
>>
>> See you there.
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Starts today!
>>>
>>> https://www.coursera.org/course/crypto
>>>
>>> We will meet up on thursday to go over this weeks material. 6-7pm at the
>>> SudoRoom!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -steve
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> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:31:03 -0700
> From: Andrey Fedorov <anfedorov at gmail.com>
> To: Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group
> on Thursday
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> Some stuff ran late, so I won't make it today guys, but definitely
> will next week.
>
> Let the list know what the structure everyone decides on is. Do we expect
> everyone to have watched the lectures and attempted the homework?
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013, Gregg Horton wrote:
>
>> Just a reminder we are meeting tonight, I don't expect to go over much
>> material tonight, but we should come up with how we want to structure our
>> meetings. I haven't started the homework yet and i'm only a little over
>> half way through this week's lectures.
>>
>> 6pm at the suddddoooooorooooommmmmmmmm
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'steveberl at gmail.com');>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just signed up for the class. Won't make it this thursday evening, but
>>> should be able to come in the following weeks.
>>>
>>> See you there.
>>>
>>> -steve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'greggahorton at gmail.com');>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Starts today!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.coursera.org/course/crypto
>>>>
>>>> We will meet up on thursday to go over this weeks material. 6-7pm at the
>>>> SudoRoom!
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
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>>>> 'sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org');>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -steve
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:46:32 -0700
> From: Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com>
> To: Andrey Fedorov <anfedorov at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Encryption Class Starts today, Study Group
> on Thursday
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> For next week:
> Complete the videos for week 2 and the Homework from week one.
>
> We will leave time for questions around the homework from week 1, and for
> the content for week 2. us who are here see this as a pretty good format.
> This leaves the weekends for the homework.
>
> yay!
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrey Fedorov <anfedorov at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some stuff ran late, so I won't make it today guys, but definitely
>> will next week.
>>
>> Let the list know what the structure everyone decides on is. Do we expect
>> everyone to have watched the lectures and attempted the homework?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 12, 2013, Gregg Horton wrote:
>>
>>> Just a reminder we are meeting tonight, I don't expect to go over much
>>> material tonight, but we should come up with how we want to structure our
>>> meetings. I haven't started the homework yet and i'm only a little over
>>> half way through this week's lectures.
>>>
>>> 6pm at the suddddoooooorooooommmmmmmmm
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just signed up for the class. Won't make it this thursday evening, but
>>>> should be able to come in the following weeks.
>>>>
>>>> See you there.
>>>>
>>>> -steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Starts today!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.coursera.org/course/crypto
>>>>>
>>>>> We will meet up on thursday to go over this weeks material. 6-7pm at the
>>>>> SudoRoom!
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> -steve
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:33:24 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
> Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Disaster Recovery SDR-based mesh
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> Hi!
>
> Some of us at sudo room / east bay mesh are working on a low bandwidth
> disaster recovery mesh project based on software defined radios.
>
> We're prototyping with a combination of USRP1 and RTL-SDR devices and GNU
> Radio.
>
> We're having some issues getting the receivers to demodulate our data
> streams (using DQPSK and QAM modulation).
>
> Does anyone have experience with such matters and if so, would you sit down
> with us and help debug our setup (or even join the project)?
>
> Willing to meet at either noisebridge or sudo room. We'll bring the food
> and beer.
>
> --
> Marc Juul
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:12:26 -0700
> From: johanna faust <female.faust at gmail.com>
> To: Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> Cc: Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com>, Liberty Madison
> <liberty at libertymadison.com>, sudo-discuss
> <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Incident Saturday
> Message-ID:
> <CA+59gZO+On0FFF96Rp613kTB1sWSTJg5NqZm84+QRTY_AT86og at mail.gmail.com>
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> i wonder if there is any hopen in talking to him?
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey all, I sent this to Laurie today:
>>
>> Laurie,
>>
>> Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to send a
>> full response? We also need to address the incident on this past Saturday,
>> which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We've used http://hackerspaces.crowdmap.com/ in the past to show listings
>>> of spaces, look at price points, be knowledgeable about local availability.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And these:
>>>>
>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4047110117.html
>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4015202437.html
>>>>
>>>>
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>
>
> --
> Be seeing you.
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:18:25 -0700
> From: Jonathan levin <jdlevin at gmail.com>
> To: sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Apple's new fingerprint ID and the 5th
> amendment
> Message-ID: <5232A021.2090601 at gmail.com>
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> Hey Sudo,
>
> Interesting article in WIRED about the possible legal implications of
> using biometric methods of data protection.
>
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/09/the-unexpected-result-of-fingerprint-authentication-that-you-cant-take-the-fifth/
>
> Enjoy!
> JDL
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:47:53 -0700
> From: Matthieu Tourne <matthieu.tourne at gmail.com>
> To: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
> Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Disaster Recovery
> SDR-based mesh
> Message-ID:
> <CAAGYmFcwokx9BtmZpcTnLz3QwEnEMpFu566cdG07N2UH8cKAEQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Hi!
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Some of us at sudo room / east bay mesh are working on a low bandwidth
>> disaster recovery mesh project based on software defined radios.
>>
>> We're prototyping with a combination of USRP1 and RTL-SDR devices and GNU
>> Radio.
>>
>> We're having some issues getting the receivers to demodulate our data
>> streams (using DQPSK and QAM modulation).
> I never thought about doing much more than tuning to FM radios with my
> rtl-sdr, but that's a pretty cool project!
>
>
> I think that depends what's your goal, if you want to decode qpsk frame
> from classic radios [1] I think rtl-sdr can do it.
>
> If you want to Tx/Rx data accurately, I think you need a digital modulation
> chip [2]
> (my understanding is that it works best at the hardware level if you want a
> decent bandwidth)
>
> Something like this [3] could help, if you know someone who can program
> fpga cards ..
>
> But it's a pretty cool project, maybe you can use an OFDM stream instead
> [4][5].
> That's the hd tv data stream the chip RTL2832U [5] in the rtl-sdr is meant
> to demodulate in hardware.
>
> .. I even found an opencore for ofdm modulation [7], which could (in
> theory) be loaded on an fpga ..
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthieu
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_25
> [2] http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/686
> [3] http://nuand.com/
> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal_frequency-division_multiplexing
> [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ0KDjxhXNk
> [6]
> http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=22&PFid=35&Level=4&Conn=3&ProdID=257
> [7] http://opencores.org/project,ofdm
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:02:16 -0700
> From: Patrick Schmidt <psbschmidt at googlemail.com>
> To: Sudo Room Discussion List <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] Pinnacle of cultural diversity
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> Sorry for being negative but I am not sure that it is all so positive.
> There is one person who has a very negative aura, always talks about
> negative things,
> at least one coder girl of colour stopped coming because of him. ( I
> should have spoken up much earlier).
> I feel very unsafe around that person. Nevertheless on Art Murmur's
> friday I wanted
> to overcome my fear and went and tried to talk to him, he was playing
> with a knife
> (made me unconfortable and I had the vision that he would stab me, so
> i mentioned that to ridiculize my own fear), but then he started to
> talk about very negative things again,
> I do not even remember what it was, I just left that conversation.
>
> I have seen people of colour who randomly walked in at art murmurs
> where we had the doors open to the street, walk out again as soon as
> they saw that we are mostly white folks up there.
>
> Yes, Sudoroom is amazing, lots of feminin energy and mostly I feel safe,
> Sudokids did rock a lot and one time we had black kids, white
> kids,southamerican kids, arabic kids and asian kids all together and
> it is wonderful,
> but still I think we have a lot of work to do to open up more, diversify,
> and make sure the hacker movement and empowerment is not only for the
> traditionally privilleged.
>
> I am not looking to have a confrontation with that person, i already
> forgave and released,
> I will just try to shine my light and if it comes to that try to help
> that person overcome his negativity and fear.
>
>
>
> 2013/9/12, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com>:
>> It is so awesome to see Sudoroom as a pinnacle of cultural diversity. There
>> is no tokenism here or random Asian women shoved into showcase roles. It is
>> truly a place where open minded people mix freely showing their diversity
>> and superiority to any capital it's systems and stick it to the man
>>
>> Rock on!!!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:45:27 -0700
> From: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
> To: Patrick Schmidt <psbschmidt at googlemail.com>
> Cc: Sudo Room Discussion List <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Pinnacle of cultural diversity
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> thank you patrick for bringing up the current status of our efforts at
> creating an inclusive space. i basically ask myself these kinds of
> questions constantly (performing constant temperature check of things like
> "how boys-clubbish does sudo feel right now?" and "if i were a person of
> color, would i feel alienated if i walked in right now having never been
> here before?" "is this a place where a non-gender-normative person would
> feel comfortable being themselves without having to answer for who they
> are?", etc.).
>
> so, i agree with you that we are not living up to the standards that we've
> set for inclusivity. while we are doing a better job than many other
> hackerspaces, in my mind, if we do not reflect the community of Oakland in
> our diversity, then we have room for improvement.
>
> *so everyone, what are the conditions that contribute to us currently not
> meeting our inclusivity goals and what can we do to start meeting them?* *what
> can we all be doing to make the space more inclusive and welcoming?*
>
> - marina
>
> ps - i wanted to share with everyone some inspiration for the kind of sudo
> room that i'd like to see. it's a creative/hackspace in chattanooga that's
> run by a library that was basically given over to innovation-oriented folks
> to run carte blanche. i think that it is a space with more or less complete
> community ownership (meaning that it's not seen as fringe or niche...it's
> seen like the library.."a place where everyone just goes")..that would be
> pretty cool @_@
>
> about the space: http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
> really interesting news piece about how it happened:
> http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/aug/11/rock-star-librarians/?entertainment
>
> pps - i agree with patrick that we have a lot of positive feminist energy.
> we work very hard at this and although there are still times when things
> are boys-clubbish and there are barely any women in the space, i feel that
> our community overall is invested in ensuring that we have a space where
> women have an expectation that they will be treated as humans (an
> expectation that many women don't have in many places in the world!). my
> perspective is that this commitment from the community is what it really
> takes to solve problems of inclusion because it means that we have a number
> of people who are invested in coming up with solutions when things are
> exclusive. now how to maintain this and make it better and expand it for
> everyone :)
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Schmidt
> <psbschmidt at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry for being negative but I am not sure that it is all so positive.
>> There is one person who has a very negative aura, always talks about
>> negative things,
>> at least one coder girl of colour stopped coming because of him. ( I
>> should have spoken up much earlier).
>> I feel very unsafe around that person. Nevertheless on Art Murmur's
>> friday I wanted
>> to overcome my fear and went and tried to talk to him, he was playing
>> with a knife
>> (made me unconfortable and I had the vision that he would stab me, so
>> i mentioned that to ridiculize my own fear), but then he started to
>> talk about very negative things again,
>> I do not even remember what it was, I just left that conversation.
>>
>> I have seen people of colour who randomly walked in at art murmurs
>> where we had the doors open to the street, walk out again as soon as
>> they saw that we are mostly white folks up there.
>>
>> Yes, Sudoroom is amazing, lots of feminin energy and mostly I feel safe,
>> Sudokids did rock a lot and one time we had black kids, white
>> kids,southamerican kids, arabic kids and asian kids all together and
>> it is wonderful,
>> but still I think we have a lot of work to do to open up more, diversify,
>> and make sure the hacker movement and empowerment is not only for the
>> traditionally privilleged.
>>
>> I am not looking to have a confrontation with that person, i already
>> forgave and released,
>> I will just try to shine my light and if it comes to that try to help
>> that person overcome his negativity and fear.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/9/12, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com>:
>>> It is so awesome to see Sudoroom as a pinnacle of cultural diversity.
>> There
>>> is no tokenism here or random Asian women shoved into showcase roles. It
>> is
>>> truly a place where open minded people mix freely showing their diversity
>>> and superiority to any capital it's systems and stick it to the man
>>>
>>> Rock on!!!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:05:42 -0700
> From: Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com>
> To: johanna faust <female.faust at gmail.com>
> Cc: Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com>, Liberty Madison
> <liberty at libertymadison.com>, sudo-discuss
> <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Incident Saturday
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> The lease that Matt sent out a while ago clearly states that all requests
> and complaints must be in writing. So I would like to reiterate that if
> George approaches you just say, "please put that in writing so I can share
> it with the group, thanks" and walk away if you can.
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM, johanna faust <female.faust at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> i wonder if there is any hopen in talking to him?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hey all, I sent this to Laurie today:
>>>
>>> Laurie,
>>>
>>> Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to send
>> a
>>> full response? We also need to address the incident on this past
>> Saturday,
>>> which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We've used http://hackerspaces.crowdmap.com/ in the past to show
>> listings
>>>> of spaces, look at price points, be knowledgeable about local
>> availability.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, rusty lindgren <
>> rustylindgren at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And these:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4047110117.html
>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4015202437.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Be seeing you.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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>
>
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> Cell: 831-332-2507
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:47:32 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com>
> To: andrew at roshambomedia.com
> Cc: yardenack at gmail.com, sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org,
> liberty at libertymadison.com
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Incident Saturday
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> reiterating the in-writing requirement is good. just walking away may or may not be so good - i have so far had the good fortune not to know the depths of these interactions.
>
> Sep 13, 2013 10:05:48 AM, andrew at roshambomedia.com wrote:
> The lease that Matt sent out a while ago clearly states that all requests and complaints must be in writing. So I would like to reiterate that if George approaches you just say, "please put that in writing so I can share it with the group, thanks" and walk away if you can.
>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM, johanna faust female.faust at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i wonder if there is any hopen in talking to him?
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey all, I sent this to Laurie today:
>>
>>
>>
>> Laurie,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to send a
>>
>> full response? We also need to address the incident on this past Saturday,
>>
>> which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate at gmail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> We've used http://hackerspaces.crowdmap.com/ in the past to show listings
>>
>>> of spaces, look at price points, be knowledgeable about local availability.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, rusty lindgren rustylindgren at gmail.com>
>>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> And these:
>>
>>
>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4047110117.html
>>
>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4015202437.html
>>
>>
>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>
>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>
>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>
>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
>
> --
> Be seeing you.
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -------Andrew LoweCell: 831-332-2507http://roshambomedia.com
>
>
>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:49:11 -0700
> From: Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com>
> To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, lol-hackers
> <lol-hackers at googlegroups.com>, Juan Crispin Hernandez-Rosas
> <one_e_toe at yahoo.com>, xander at ligandal.com, dre at ligandal.com
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] foundational bio / hacking TIL this sat
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> Hihi,
>
> I'll be doing a foundational bio hacking TIL this sat at sudoroom!
> Alexander and Andre who are badass nano-biohackers will be backing me up.
> We'll be covering the basics of how DNA, RNA, proteins and gene splicing
> works. Hope to see you there! Love and Peace!
>
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned#September_14_:_Understanding_DNA_and_Evolution_--_From_the_sticky_inside_of_your_mouth_to_public_internet_databases
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:40:44 -0700
> From: Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com>
> To: hol at gaskill.com
> Cc: yardenack at gmail.com, liberty at libertymadison.com,
> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Incident Saturday
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> Walking away may not be easy to do as he tends to corner people when they
> are alone in the space.
> On Sep 13, 2013 11:47 AM, "Hol Gaskill" <hol at gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> reiterating the in-writing requirement is good. just walking away may or
>> may not be so good - i have so far had the good fortune not to know the
>> depths of these interactions.
>>
>> Sep 13, 2013 10:05:48 AM, andrew at roshambomedia.com wrote:
>> The lease that Matt sent out a while ago clearly states that all requests
>> and complaints must be in writing. So I would like to reiterate that if
>> George approaches you just say, "please put that in writing so I can share
>> it with the group, thanks" and walk away if you can.
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:12 PM, johanna faust female.faust at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> i wonder if there is any hopen in talking to him?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all, I sent this to Laurie today:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Laurie,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for replying briefly, when do you expect you will be able to send
>> a
>>>
>>> full response? We also need to address the incident on this past
>> Saturday,
>>>
>>> which was another unacceptable confrontation and accusation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Matthew Senate mattsenate at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> We've used http://hackerspaces.crowdmap.com/ in the past to show
>> listings
>>>
>>>> of spaces, look at price points, be knowledgeable about local
>> availability.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, rusty lindgren
>> rustylindgren at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> And these:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4047110117.html
>>>
>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/off/4015202437.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>
>>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>
>>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Be seeing you.
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -------Andrew LoweCell: 831-332-2507http://roshambomedia.com
>>
>>
>>
>>>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:06:39 -0700
> From: Patrick Schmidt <psbschmidt at googlemail.com>
> To: Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sudo Room Discussion List <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Pinnacle of cultural diversity
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> Hi all,
>
> the person that I talked about reached out to me and I am now
> convinced he does not have negative intentions. It was a
> misunderstanding and maybe I was too sensitive or primed.
>
> The incident back then was a comment made over the list which
> triggered the girl,
> it was a statement in which the person identified with the suppressive culture.
>
> When I was young I also made many sarcastic comments to point out the
> crazy mind beliefs and social norms we have in our strange societies.
>
> But we do not have to identify with this strange culture, which is
> unsustainable and cuts down the rainforest, the lungs of our planet
> (we vote with our dollar and even if we do not have rainforest here in
> the US, the brazilians are cutting down the forest to plant GMO
> monoculture soy to feed the cows for the cattle for american and
> european markets)
>
> Just last week I had the epiphany that it maybe more useful that
> instead of identifying with the sick society, the male energies
> cutting down the forest, we should identify and focus on the female
> energies regrowing.
>
> Second epiphany I had that instead of complaining and trying to raise
> awareness about the toxic foods that are so popular in this society
> and even conscious and smart people eat,
> it is much better to focus on providing non toxic mother earth foods
> from the countryside hackers, the organic farmers, who love what they
> do and treat mother earth well.
> I am sure that we could make connections with farmers from the farmers
> market who donate food to us on a regular basis and we help them with
> homepages/media.
>
> We are givig birth to a new society all together,
> for the first time we can make it right, a society where the female
> spirit are not suppressed,
> a society celebrating diversity, peace and abundance, access of
> knowledge and ressources and empowerment for all.
> After all mother earth provides enough food and shelter for all,
> scarcity is man made and artificial.
>
> I will reach out to the girl, even if I think I never talked to her in person,
> and maybe we can make her come back.
>
> p.s. sudo room feels like family to me, last friday late at night we
> had a cuddle puddle, we formed an amoeba organism together and evolved
> to a mushroom, we sang together and beat boxed, and we are part of the
> peace and love movement.
> I see a positive future for Sudoroom and opening up and diversifying
> more will bring many new perspectives which will enrich the whole
> community, looking forward :)
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/9/13, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso at gmail.com>:
>> thank you patrick for bringing up the current status of our efforts at
>> creating an inclusive space. i basically ask myself these kinds of
>> questions constantly (performing constant temperature check of things like
>> "how boys-clubbish does sudo feel right now?" and "if i were a person of
>> color, would i feel alienated if i walked in right now having never been
>> here before?" "is this a place where a non-gender-normative person would
>> feel comfortable being themselves without having to answer for who they
>> are?", etc.).
>>
>> so, i agree with you that we are not living up to the standards that we've
>> set for inclusivity. while we are doing a better job than many other
>> hackerspaces, in my mind, if we do not reflect the community of Oakland in
>> our diversity, then we have room for improvement.
>>
>> *so everyone, what are the conditions that contribute to us currently not
>> meeting our inclusivity goals and what can we do to start meeting them?*
>> *what
>> can we all be doing to make the space more inclusive and welcoming?*
>>
>> - marina
>>
>> ps - i wanted to share with everyone some inspiration for the kind of sudo
>> room that i'd like to see. it's a creative/hackspace in chattanooga that's
>> run by a library that was basically given over to innovation-oriented folks
>> to run carte blanche. i think that it is a space with more or less complete
>> community ownership (meaning that it's not seen as fringe or niche...it's
>> seen like the library.."a place where everyone just goes")..that would be
>> pretty cool @_@
>>
>> about the space: http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/
>> really interesting news piece about how it happened:
>> http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/aug/11/rock-star-librarians/?entertainment
>>
>> pps - i agree with patrick that we have a lot of positive feminist energy.
>> we work very hard at this and although there are still times when things
>> are boys-clubbish and there are barely any women in the space, i feel that
>> our community overall is invested in ensuring that we have a space where
>> women have an expectation that they will be treated as humans (an
>> expectation that many women don't have in many places in the world!). my
>> perspective is that this commitment from the community is what it really
>> takes to solve problems of inclusion because it means that we have a number
>> of people who are invested in coming up with solutions when things are
>> exclusive. now how to maintain this and make it better and expand it for
>> everyone :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Schmidt
>> <psbschmidt at googlemail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for being negative but I am not sure that it is all so positive.
>>> There is one person who has a very negative aura, always talks about
>>> negative things,
>>> at least one coder girl of colour stopped coming because of him. ( I
>>> should have spoken up much earlier).
>>> I feel very unsafe around that person. Nevertheless on Art Murmur's
>>> friday I wanted
>>> to overcome my fear and went and tried to talk to him, he was playing
>>> with a knife
>>> (made me unconfortable and I had the vision that he would stab me, so
>>> i mentioned that to ridiculize my own fear), but then he started to
>>> talk about very negative things again,
>>> I do not even remember what it was, I just left that conversation.
>>>
>>> I have seen people of colour who randomly walked in at art murmurs
>>> where we had the doors open to the street, walk out again as soon as
>>> they saw that we are mostly white folks up there.
>>>
>>> Yes, Sudoroom is amazing, lots of feminin energy and mostly I feel safe,
>>> Sudokids did rock a lot and one time we had black kids, white
>>> kids,southamerican kids, arabic kids and asian kids all together and
>>> it is wonderful,
>>> but still I think we have a lot of work to do to open up more, diversify,
>>> and make sure the hacker movement and empowerment is not only for the
>>> traditionally privilleged.
>>>
>>> I am not looking to have a confrontation with that person, i already
>>> forgave and released,
>>> I will just try to shine my light and if it comes to that try to help
>>> that person overcome his negativity and fear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/9/12, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com>:
>>>> It is so awesome to see Sudoroom as a pinnacle of cultural diversity.
>>> There
>>>> is no tokenism here or random Asian women shoved into showcase roles.
>>>> It
>>> is
>>>> truly a place where open minded people mix freely showing their
>>>> diversity
>>>> and superiority to any capital it's systems and stick it to the man
>>>>
>>>> Rock on!!!
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org
>>> http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>
>
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>
> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:00:06 -0700
> From: Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk>
> To: Matthieu Tourne <matthieu.tourne at gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
> Discuss <noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Disaster Recovery
> SDR-based mesh
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Matthieu Tourne <matthieu.tourne at gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Some of us at sudo room / east bay mesh are working on a low bandwidth
>>> disaster recovery mesh project based on software defined radios.
>>>
>>> We're prototyping with a combination of USRP1 and RTL-SDR devices and GNU
>>> Radio.
>>>
>>> We're having some issues getting the receivers to demodulate our data
>>> streams (using DQPSK and QAM modulation).
>> I never thought about doing much more than tuning to FM radios with my
>> rtl-sdr, but that's a pretty cool project!
> Thanks! You should come hack with us!
>
>
>> I think that depends what's your goal, if you want to decode qpsk frame
>> from classic radios [1] I think rtl-sdr can do it.
>>
>> If you want to Tx/Rx data accurately, I think you need a digital
>> modulation chip [2]
>> (my understanding is that it works best at the hardware level if you want
>> a decent bandwidth)
>
> The RTL-SDR is definitely not a high quality SDR, but we have very low
> bandwidth requirements. For the transmitters we're only using USRPs while
> prototyping. We're also working on a cheap transmit-only SDR circuit, but
> that is definitely a longer term project and for now we just want a full
> functioning prototype.
>
>
>> Something like this [3] could help, if you know someone who can program
>> fpga cards ..
>
> That's lower cost than the USRP, but still more expensive than we'd like.
>
>
>> But it's a pretty cool project, maybe you can use an OFDM stream instead
>> [4][5].
>> That's the hd tv data stream the chip RTL2832U [5] in the rtl-sdr is meant
>> to demodulate in hardware.
>
> I hadn't actually considered using the built-in de-modulation :-S I'll look
> into that.
>
>
>>
>> .. I even found an opencore for ofdm modulation [7], which could (in
>> theory) be loaded on an fpga ..
>
> Interesting. Thanks for all the links!
>
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Matthieu
>>
>> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_25
>> [2] http://www.maximintegrated.com/app-notes/index.mvp/id/686
>> [3] http://nuand.com/
>> [4]
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonal_frequency-division_multiplexing
>> [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ0KDjxhXNk
>> [6]
>> http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/productsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=22&PFid=35&Level=4&Conn=3&ProdID=257
>> [7] http://opencores.org/project,ofdm
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> From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com>
> To: Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com>
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> Sounds great!
>
> People who'd like to dig further in can also come join Ron Shigeta's
> Bioinformatics class with Counter Culture Labs at sudoroom on Sunday:
>
> http://www.meetup.com/Counter-Culture-Labs/events/137716962/
>
> Patrik
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Praveen Sinha <dmhomee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hihi,
>>
>> I'll be doing a foundational bio hacking TIL this sat at sudoroom!
>> Alexander and Andre who are badass nano-biohackers will be backing me up.
>> We'll be covering the basics of how DNA, RNA, proteins and gene splicing
>> works. Hope to see you there! Love and Peace!
>>
>>
>> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Today_I_Learned#September_14_:_Understanding_DNA_and_Evolution_--_From_the_sticky_inside_of_your_mouth_to_public_internet_databases
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