[sudo-discuss] temporary email suspensions

[Jenny Ryan]

For the record, the action was taken by three people - myself, Matt, and
Marc when we were at sudo late last night working on things (such as this
weekend's event). All three of us have access to the listserv and regularly
moderate the bounces, mailman errors, etc. Matt sent Giovanni a private
email informing him that he'd been removed from the list.

I entirely support the suspension of someone who's not only been spamming
the list, but has been defacing Noisebridge's wiki and posting messages
such as the following:
https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-October/039832.html

Banning someone from a mailing list is *not* the same as banning them from
the physical community; it's a preservation mode so we don't receive a bevy
of heartbreaking unsubscribe requests. And we are also hoping people can
come together this weekend and support Sudo Room in person - though many of
you may have missed those posts in the barrage.

Jenny
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Lovelle Mixon <sudoroom at ilovebeer.ca>wrote:

> Running a listserv is a completely thankless job.
>
> You're just witnessing how giovanni_re/john fastmail/john/john regan
> works.  I don't think
> he's a bad person.  He's not assaulting anyone.  He is genuinely excited
> about computers
> and Linux and communities and free software.  His usual mode is he joins a
> free culture/
> community/open source software community mailing list, and then every few
> months or so
> starts cross posting interesting links or forwarding emails from one list
> to the other,
> no editing, just WHAM here read email from this other place, not realizing
> that if someone
> wants to read email from the other mailing list, they would just JOIN that
> mailing list,
> no need to forward it.  He's been doing this for over 10 years.  He'll be
> doing it
> long after sudoroom is gone.
>
> You usually don't notice what's happening because he's on a LOT of mailing
> lists, and annoying
> each of the mailing lists is a lot of work, so he doesn't get around to
> forwarding stuff
> to your mailing list until about a month in the cycle.
>
> Sometimes he gets super excited about something ( RADIO! ) and starts
> concentrating on
> your particular community, and boom you get the 10 emails in 1 hour
> problem you just saw.
>
> Unknown how to properly deal with him.  People don't join his list
> BerkeleyTIP so he feels
> the need to branch out.  Personally, I think it would help if he fixed the
> links on his site
> that are broken and updated and are over 4 years old now.   That would be
> a great start.
>
> John, you have a perfectly good wiki over on BerkeleyTIP.  You could
> update it with spectrum FCC
> radio announcements.  You've been trying to get inspire Noisebridge and
> Sudoroom to grab
> some spectrum of their own.  Getting your website in order would be a good
> start.
>
> Best
>
> Lovelle
>
>
>
>
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