[sudo-discuss] "Free as in sexist?" Free Culture and the Gender Gap

[Naomi Most]

Seems like you didn't actually read the piece.

"The message from society, both culturally and economically, is that
it's fine to be a sweaty basement dweller, and we will forgive you for
your various socialization issues, as long as you produce economically
valuable technology by the bucket load."

No, the message from society is that it's fine to be a sweaty basement
dwelling MAN, and we will not only forgive you when you are abrasive
and argumentative but reward you for it.

That's exactly the opposite of what women experience.

Women find that the more they emulate their male peers in order to fit
into the industry, the worse they fare in everything from job
interviews to asking for raises to contract negotiations.  And women
who remain demure are better liked but receive very little in the way
of career success.

This systemic problem far transcends "the narrative of socially inept
men victimizing women, because of their own inadequacies."

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Tom Hodder <tom at limepepper.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28 October 2013 18:19, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>> "Free as in Sexist?" Free Culture and the Gender Gap, by Joseph Reagle
>> (2013)
>> http://www.firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/4291/3381
>>
>> Happy to discuss further,
>
>
> I'd like to point out the numerous fallacies and mis-characterizations in
> the piece, and particularly in the stated argument, but I fear the
> accusation of misogyny. ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
> p.s.
>
> I agree with the author's general point, (of which you hardly need an appeal
> to statistics to comprehend the magnitude of the disparity), that the
> development of software which has such impact globally, should be done by a
> group with such a narrow range of values, is enormously undesirable.
>
> However the material is just re-hashing the narrative of socially inept men
> victimizing women, because of their own inadequacies.
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> The message from society, both culturally and economically, is that it's
> fine to be a sweaty basement dweller, and we will forgive you for your
> various socialization issues, as long as you produce economically valuable
> technology by the bucket load.
>
> The current society values goal orientated behaviour more than it values
> equality of opportunity, and certainly more than if values equality of
> outcome.
>
> So while there is left wing hand wringing, and papers in sociology journals
> entitled "How do we fix this disparity?", the rest of society (those with
> the money, those with the power) are tacitly approving and generating
> enormous financial and social incentives to reinforce the situation.
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