[sudo-discuss] Possible new sudo space

[Marc Juul]

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>>
>> Um, not that I wouldn't support a space here, but your impression that it
>> seems/feels safe there is wrong.  That is exactly where my kid was thrown
>> to the ground in the middle of the street by three teenagers, with a gun
>> held to her stomach, and robbed.  I won't even use that Bart station
>> anymore.
>>
>
> That's horrible.
>
> I've compiled some basic stats about this new area vs. our existing
> location. Not that these stats are necessarily a good estimate of safety,
> but it's the best I could do with the data from oakland.crimespotting.org.
>
> Reported crimes between January 1st 2013 and when they stopped reporting
> 64 days ago within a two-block radius of the path between this new
> potential location and the BART stop.
>
>   Theft: 5
>   Simple Assault: 4
>   Aggravated Assault: 2
>   Vehicle theft: 1
>   Robbery: 1
>   Burglary: 1
>   Vandalism: 1
>   Narcotics: 0
>
> The same, but for the path between sudo room's current location and the
> 19th st BART stop:
>
>   Theft: 6
>   Simple Assault: 12
>   Aggravated Assault: 0
>   Vehicle theft : 2
>   Robbery: 3
>   Burglary: 2
>   Vandalism:  1
>   Narcotics: 1
>
> I make no guarantees as to the accuracy of this data.
>

and here's one for The Omni to MacArthur two block radius (a bigger area
since it's a longer walk):

Theft: 6
Simple Assault: 9
Aggravated Assault: 1
Vehicle theft: 0
Robbery: 10
Burglary: 2
Vandalism: 2
Narcotics: 0

Seems the area may be more robbery-prone, or maybe it's just more "people
who have insurance and need a police report to file a claim"-prone. I'm not
sure how to get actual useful safety date.


> Tracy
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Marc Juul <juul at labitat.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Matt, Jenny and myself went and looked at another space that could
>> potentially be a new sudo space.
>>
>> We've started gathering information about it here:
>>
>>   https://sudoroom.org/wiki/8th_and_Alice
>>
>> My personal feeling about the space is:
>>
>> This is an awesome space with lots of natural light. It addresses two of
>> the major concerns raised about The Omni in being two blocks from BART in a
>> neighborhood that seems/feels safer than the area around MacArthur BART,
>> and in being located in a less gentrified neighborhood. The one drawback in
>> comparing it to the current space and The Omni is the lack of a big
>> separate common area for events. It is _very_ similar to Noisebridge in
>> almost every way.
>>
>> --
>> marc/juul
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