[sudo-discuss] Rally this Tue. 11/19: Against Oakland's Planned Surveillance Center! 5:30pm at City Hall!

Mon Nov 18 20:23:22 PST 2013

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THANK YOU rachel!

-amber

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:24 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
<rachelyra at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Nov 17, 2013 11:22 PM, "rhodey" <rhodey at anhonesteffort.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/17/2013 11:14 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > So the question is, how to lower the probability of getting mugged,
> > > robbed, house-burgled, car-burgled, carjacked, beaten-up, raped,
> > > stabbed, shot, or murdered, without jumping on the Big Data bandwagon?
> >
> > This is alarmist and disgusting. This kind of fear mongering is the
> > easiest way to fake understanding of a complex problem and I won't waste
> > a second beyond this to discuss it further.
> >
>
> I will point out a few things here:
>
> -putting resources toward equal education and opportunities for all is the
> single easiest way to reduce crime rates. It might seem less intuitive than
> getting more people onto a violent police force known for racist
> repression, but only if you're not thinking about the level of violence,
> chaos, and murder that the police are responsible for.  Somehow the violent
> cops we already have who mostly live outside the city are not helping. One
> interesting thing about the city's expenditures on policing is the amount
> of ballooned salaries due to overtime. Some more cops on the rolls might
> fix this, actually reducing the labor cost overall, but if so then there's
> no reason to need additional funding.
>
> -Casting oneself in this absolutist fashion as the victim of crimes and
> other people as the perpetrators kind of misses the point of our common
> humanity and the varied circumstances that might lead someone to choose to
> perform thefts or violent acts.
> I am reminded of recent research I read about rats and cocaine, which
> challenged paradigmatic thinking about addiction. In the past rats had
> chosen cocaine over food and water, leading scientists to believe in an
> addiction response that overwhelms all rational thought. It turns out that
> if the rats have a big enough enclosure with enough to do (ie aren't in
> ratty prison) they choose other activities over cocaine even if they are
> 'addicted'.
> This isn't to say that I think people who commit 'crimes' are drug users,
> but that perhaps all creatures respond to limited choices by doing things
> that are different than they would do otherwise.
>
> Tl;Dr anyone concerned about crime in Oakland might consider the root of
> the problem, SOCIOLOGICAL FACTORS AND POVERTY, and if one wants to address
> the problem ethically that would be the place to start.
>
> Considering that the endemic poverty and lack of options in some
> communities of Oakland seriously curtails the level of choice available to
> people from those areas, I think it is interesting to complain about this
> problem from the point of view of oneself getting robbed. Nobody should get
> robbed, but the reason this happens is the endemic poverty and lack of
> options. Addressing these root causes would solve everyone's problems,
> instead of using police violence to cordon the problems away from the area
> where the wealthy would like to recreate unmolested.
>
> The wealthy. That's us. That's you. Maybe you don't see yourself that way
> but in some contexts that is the case.
>
> R.
>
> > --
> > -- rhodey ˙ ͜ʟ˙
> >
> > > -G
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13-11-17-Sun 8:21 PM, Marina Kukso wrote:
> > >> Call to Action: Pack city hall & rally to stop the Domain Awareness
> > >> Center in Oakland.
> > >>
> > >> (Please forward widely)
> > >>
> > >> Oakland City Council is building a surveillance center to aggregate
> > >> video surveillance feeds from all over Oakland. The Domain Awareness
> > >> Center <http://oaklandwiki.org/dac> (DAC), as it's called, will
> > >> include a computer system that aggregates information from
> > >> surveillance cameras and license plate readers across Oakland, and in
> > >> the future may include facial recognition software and social media
> > >> data mining.
> > >>
> > >> On Tuesday 11/19, City Council will be voting on a resolution that
> > >> will allow them to move forward with a new contractor for the project
> > >> (after the old contractor was found to violate an Oakland law that
> > >> prevents the city from doing business with companies that are in the
> > >> nuclear weapons industry) without issuing a new request for proposal
> > >> (RFP). If the resolution fails, Oakland will have to issue a new RFP &
> > >> potentially lose Dept of Homeland Security funds for the center.
> > >>
> > >> The NY Times
> > >> <
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/14/technology/privacy-fears-as-surveillance-grows-in-cities.html?pagewanted=all
> >
> > >> made the DAC national news, as similar centers are being considered in
> > >> other cities.
> > >>
> > >> There's an opportunity to halt or slow down the construction of the
> > >> DAC this Tuesday evening, so please join a planned rally at 5:30
> > >> and/or come to the City Council meeting itself. Meetings are open to
> > >> the public & you can even sign up to speak
> > >> <
> http://www2.oaklandnet.com/Government/o/CityClerk/s/SpeakerCard/SpeakerCard/OAK032373
> >
> > >> (DAC is item #20).
> > >>
> > >> For more info:
> > >>
> > >> On the rally:
> > >>
> https://www.facebook.com/events/409163039209928/?ref_dashboard_filter=upcoming
> > >> (or email actionforprogress
> > >> @gmail.com <http://gmail.com>)
> > >> On the DAC: http://oaklandwiki.org/DAC
> > >> On twitter: #DAC || @oaklandprivacy <
> http://twitter.com/oaklandprivacy>
> > >>
> > >>
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