[sudo-discuss] Rally this Tue. 11/19: Against Oakland's Planned Surveillance Center! 5:30pm at City Hall!

GtwoG PublicOhOne g2g-public01 at att.net
Mon Nov 18 00:04:22 PST 2013



On 13-11-17-Sun 11:22 PM, rhodey wrote:
> On 11/17/2013 11:14 PM, GtwoG PublicOhOne wrote:
>>
>> It's a waste of money, when Facebook and Google provide all that
>> surveillance "free."  If Google Glass takes off, the streets will be
>> full of walking surveillance drones, and tapping that feed ought to be
>> "free" too.
>>
>> IMHO Oakland should use the money to hire 300 more cops.  That's 200 to
>> get back up to average for a city of this size, plus another hundred
>> since we're the official Robbery Capitol of America.  Add another dozen
>> or so 911 dispatchers and we might not have to wait 36 minutes to reach
>> one on a weekend night.
>>
>> As for chilling effects on liberty, few things are quite as chilling as
>> having a robber's gun pointed at your guts on the street.  Astronomical
>> crime rates are a big chill on freedom of association and movement. 
>>
>> So the question is, how to lower the probability of getting mugged,
>> robbed, house-burgled, car-burgled, carjacked, beaten-up, raped,
>> stabbed, shot, or murdered, without jumping on the Big Data bandwagon? 
> This is alarmist and disgusting. This kind of fear mongering is the
> easiest way to fake understanding of a complex problem and I won't waste
> a second beyond this to discuss it further.

Emotional put-downs minus coherent arguement plus refusal to discuss
equals thoughtless dogmatism. 

-G.




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