[sudo-discuss] there are no LPFM slots on the FM band in the bay area, period.

Sun Nov 3 18:14:58 PST 2013

Dudes I was THERE managing tech for Pirate Cat went that all went
down.  See also:

http://nthmost.com/2011/04/radio-valencia-the-little-radio-station-that-could/

The major difference here to what was suggested above is that Pirate
Cat hosted its antenna in many many different places over the years.
We moved it every 3 months or so.  And 95% of the membership didn't
know where it was.

My point was to ask the question WHY put up the antenna at all.

The return on investment for putting up an antenna -- particularly,
one physically located at the locus of control as opposed to offsite
somewhere like in a van or something -- is pretty abysmal.
Listenership to the airwaves continues to drop.

If you decided to jam some corporate radio station, you'd be
implicating Sudo Room and the feds would come down on it sooner or
later.

If you just wanted to squat some frequency in the lower band, you'd
have an abysmal listenership at the cost of the power of operating the
antenna.

It's just not that compelling an exercise for the amount of risk.
Not for me, anyway.  I guess a lot of people still feel that the
airwaves are somehow inherently exciting.

--Naomi

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Gregg Horton <greggahorton at gmail.com> wrote:
> We agree on absolutely nothing so I abstain
>
> On Nov 3, 2013 5:17 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If someone or a group wants to propose or operate a radio station in an
>> act of peaceful civil disobedience, they should research the regs, laws,
>> and potential penalties, and talk with an attorney who has represented
>> clients who have engaged in similar acts in the past.  That would be a
>> project for a group that is not formally identical with SR.
>>
>> The most successful peaceful civil disobedience actions in the past
>> fifty years have been conducted by people who were not only
>> well-grounded in principles, but also had trained themselves in how to
>> interact in a peaceful and effective manner with all of the people they
>> would come into contact with, including law enforcement and government
>> officials.  The civil rights movement and the Clamshell Alliance
>> anti-nuclear group are excellent examples to study, and much of their
>> material can be found online.
>>
>> All of that said, online/internet radio is still the fastest way to
>> reach an audience with no geographic limits or regulatory risks, and
>> spreading the word is easy.  Linkage with other online broadcasters can
>> build up a seamless network with 24/7/365 coverage.
>>
>> To challenge the existing AM/FM broadcast status-quo, will inevitably
>> require challenging station licenses in order to re-capture spectrum.
>> And the best place to start is by challenging the crowding of spectrum
>> by multiple redundant right-wing religious broadcasters.  The case for
>> it is clear and obvious in any area with strong cultural diversity, and
>> a win is a victory on multiple fronts.
>>
>> Under-thinking, rather than over-thinking, is the risk for failure.
>> Reaction is not action.
>>
>> -G
>>
>>
>> =====
>>
>>
>> On 13-11-03-Sun 4:39 PM, Jake wrote:
>> >>> Just put a big fucking antenna on the roof and start broadcasting, if
>> >>> you don't, i will, god damnit.
>> >>>
>> >>> Stop overthinking things and do it.
>> >>
>> >> Why? So you can inflict a $20,000 fine on Sudo Room as quickly as
>> >> humanly possible?
>> >
>> > it takes a long time and a lot of work and listeners before you even
>> > get the ten-day warning, let alone an unenforcable fine.  Don't forget
>> > that Berkeley Liberation Radio has been broadcasting for almost ten
>> > years now, interrupted more often by their own failures than by two
>> > FCC raids where the FCC basically snatched their equipment and fled
>> > like cowards.
>> >
>> > No one at BLR has ever been successfully "fined", and even the NAL
>> > (Notice of Apparent Liability) filed against Stephen Dunifer of FRB
>> > before them has just sat uncollected, like almost all NALs against
>> > pirates, for twenty years now.  Stephen's very public response to the
>> > Notice of Apparent Liability was "Apparently not."
>> >
>> > The FCC's fine enforcement mechanism is to threaten to revoke your
>> > stations lisence.  This works when they fine lisenced broadcasters for
>> > the seven deadly words or whatever, but filed against an unlisenced
>> > person it's a joke.  Witness the fine against Daniel Robert of Pirate
>> > Cat Radio, which is an example of a person who put his full name all
>> > over everything and even corresponded with the FCC in the mail, making
>> > it personal.  They haven't even collected anything from him.
>> >
>> > here's the story of pirate cat's fine:
>> >
>> > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/10/fcc-fines-monkey-man-radio-pirate-10k-war-continues/
>> >
>> >
>> > The point is, if sudoroom decides as a group to broadcast a signal
>> > from the roof or wherever (we can stream over the internet you know)
>> > then sudoroom can decide for itself whether it wants to keep going
>> > after getting a "ten day notice to cease broadcasting" If that EVER
>> > happens.
>> >
>> > http://transition.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-264276A1.html
>> >
>> > and if a broadcast is not coming from the building where sudoroom is,
>> > then it is not even a matter for sudoroom to have to decide on.
>> > Sudoroom can continue to have an internet streaming radio station and
>> > leave it at that.
>> >
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