[sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?

[Andrew]

while budgeting a cleaning service is probably possible. I don't think it's
necessary. Sudo Room has been very good at keeping the common areas clean.
In many cases George's complaints are unfounded. As stated in another
thread many of us are getting fed up with his unprofessionality, arbitrary
enforcement of rules, and lack of keeping up with his obligations. Until
there is a contract stating how the common area should be cleaned and who
is ultimately responsible, I think Sudo is doing a good job on our own
keeping it relatively clean.

Also everyone should develop cleaning skills, there is no excuse for not
taking responsibility for keeping the spaces you inhabit clean.

I've been taking most of the trash I generate at the space with me when I
walk home and trowing it out outside since we moved in. Leave No Trace.

--Andrew


On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> It would be interesting if the organizers of events could find a
> cooperative way to make cleaning fun for each individual guest... Make a
> game of "who'll pick up beer bottles?"
>
> Re: janitors
> My uncle recently retired as a janitor at a Florida school. He was debt
> free and able to return to his home country with a great pension. He bought
> and paid for a house car and saved despite coming from a crime ridden poor
> third world country
>  Lets hear it for janitors they do great work
>
> ---
>
> Romy Ilano
> Founder of Snowyla
> http://www.snowyla.com
> romy at snowyla.com
>
> On May 5, 2013, at 10:08, "mattsenate at gmail.com" <mattsenate at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Cleaning is life. But even if each of us tried our best to clean up after
> ourselves, there will be aggregated filth, incrementally built, plus the
> cost of natural shuffling, displacement--such is the burden of use and
> optimization! I think we should:
>
> Communicate more clearly the necessary standards for common space.
>
> Provide all event holders with a checklist for set up and break down
>
> Clean up after ourselves and each other collaboratively
>
> Recognize that some additional amount of cleaning is required and
> therefore create good systems for cleaning natural, aggregate mess.*
>
> * my personal politics hope we can do this specific type of work without
> direct financial incentive.
>
> // Matt
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Gregg Horton" <greggahorton at gmail.com>
> To: "Romy Ilano" <romy at snowyla.com>
> Cc: "sudo-discuss" <sudo-discuss at lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: [sudo-discuss] should we hire someone to clean up after events?
> Date: Sun, May 5, 2013 9:48 AM
>
>
> I think we should hire a fellow sudoer and use the cash as incentive.
> Whoever wishes to do it that month can.
>
> Or people can learn how to pick up after themselves.
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Romy Ilano <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>
>> SudoRoom is a hackerspace. Our skillset is not cleaning, especially
>> cleaning the big main room.
>>
>> *- Should we put aside $30-60 every time a group holds an event in our
>> space so that we can pay someone to clean up the common room?*
>> *- Should we pay someone $30-60 once  month to clean the common room for
>> us?*
>>
>> I brought this up because we are realistically not going to get a lot of
>> members to clean the space. we are hackers. it is not our skillset. There
>> is not going to be a magical day when a hackerspace finds that all of its
>> members find cleaning to be a pleasurable act.
>>
>> We are good at starting projects, drinking beer, looking for new spaces,
>> but we are definitely not great at cleaning.
>>
>> Our landlord G is also receptive to the idea of us hiring someone to
>> clean up the common room after big events.
>>
>> I personally suck at cleaning, I'm into doing it, but I would rather
>> spend my time hacking and working on projects. I spent a bit of time
>> cleaning up the space Saturday morning, wiping down the tables int he main
>> room and vacuuming to prepare the space for the today I learned.
>>
>>
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