[sudo-discuss] Erotica and women's bodies

[Sonja Trauss]

Can I get a link for this gonorreah story?
On May 4, 2013 6:42 PM, "GtwoG PublicOhOne" <g2g-public01 at att.net> wrote:

>
> Romy & Yo's-
>
> Re. "womens' bodies with their faces cut off."
>
> Wow.  Thanks for pointing that out.  I never noticed that before (OTOH
> attempts to do "sexy" in advertising generally don't get my attention),
> but I vaguely recall seeing ads like that somewhere.
>
> I agree, a torso minus a face is depersonalizing and objectifying as
> hell, unless there's a very good reason for taking a photo that way
> (e.g. medical contexts).  Being looked at "that way" produces the creepy
> feeling that the looker's intentions are non-consensual.
>
> The only borderline-legit reason I could see for doing it in clothing
> ads is, "we want you to imagine yourself wearing this, and we don't want
> to risk putting you off by showing a face that's substantially different
> to yours, so imagine your face on this person's body."  But it would be
> foolish to think that's what's intended every time that photographic
> method is used.
>
> This brings up the question of what people find sexy in photography.
> For me (gay male), a photo minus a face is a non-starter: there's no cue
> for communication with the person.  Nudes in general don't do it either:
> all the usual contextual cues as to someone's personality are missing,
> so why would I even begin to imagine being in an intimate context with
> someone I don't really know?  I've always felt that way but now we have
> the HIV pandemic to reinforce it: in general it's not a good idea to get
> intimate with someone you don't know very well, because the outcome
> could be a life-threatening illness.
>
> For that matter, now that massively-drug-resistant gonorrhea is loose in
> the USA, which is hella' easier to catch than HIV and can kill you in a
> matter of days through a raging bacterial infection, it's probably a
> darn good idea for everyone to "get smart & play safe" ALL the time,
> zero exceptions, even more so than with HIV.  In which case photography
> that portrays an objectified sexuality without communications isn't just
> gross and exploitative, it's a public health hazard that reinforces
> attitudes that put people at risk for their lives.
>
> -G.
>
>
> =====
>
>
> On 13-05-04-Sat 10:34 AM, Romy Snowyla wrote:
> > It's interesting to me how porn a
> > Nd erotica always advertise with women's bodies with their faces cut off
> > American apparel digs this etc
> > Lots of art theory discusses this
> >
> > I would love for any Sudo room event to break the mold and show men's
> bodies in any erotic theme as well ... Also would love to see the male body
> as the focus of any erotic film or dance to balance out the Imbalance and
> unnatural obsession with t and a we see on the porn industry
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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