[sudo-discuss] Spiritual analysis of last weeks Meeting

[Eddan]

Patrick -

I share your frustration, even as I end up taking part in what is
frustrating about it. It is unfortunate the manner in which these
discussions have evolved, but I think it is also worth considering why
these sadly uninviting conversations keep coming up so that we can try to
fix it rather than ignore what it might signify when articulated in a more
friendly spirit.

It is my impression that underlying all the technicalities is a sense that
we're broaching the point where making decisions on behalf of the whole
feels more important. You could say we are graduating into the next phase
of the spiritual constitution of this unlikely community. It stirs emotion
because we share the dissatisfaction of the existing models of how this is
done regularly and want passionately for this to be different than that.

I know that you're right that the rules-based version of this feeling is
likely not the best way to go. But we still have to figure out how to make
decisions together, even if it is the choreography of a puppet-show
folk-dance.

-Eddan


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Patrick Schmidt
<psbschmidt at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Dear Sudoers,
>
> what happened last week again?
>
> Everybody was excited, we had a birthday, we had awesome food and
> awesome people.
> As hackers we come to share what we are passionate about, get
> inspired, plan new projects,
> and are excellent to each other, work together on things at Sudo and
> plan awesome activities.
>
> But than a big rupture. A new ever returning topic comes to the agenda,
> the whole energy of the room fades away.
>
> The looks of the faces of the people all say the same:
> lets get as quickly over this point as possible.
>
> But we had to go through this for one hour, an EGO driven conversation
> starts.
>
> Its about regulating, rules, hypotheticals, bureaucracy, installing
> special sudo functions almost like police.
>
> we were arguing an hour over some trivial wording.
>
> is this really the way we want to go?
>
> Not being able to solve problems in the moment at the meetings?
> Or to keep the positive energy going at the meetings?
> Paralyzing ourselved for one hour again instead of sharing?
>
> Do we really want to loose somuch time about wording of a document
> which is only read
> by the people who wrote the document?
>
> We all enjoy coming to sudoroom. For a growing and thriving community
> it should be easy
> to tell friends about it, invite people and say "just be excellent to
> each other and check it out",
> nobody will read any commendments or laws before coming.
>
> But what would new people see at the meetings? the same uninviting
> left brain driven discussions we see in politics and law...
>
> Do we really want to be ruled by a police system again within our
> newborn community?
>
> We are all one, one community, one people, one tribe.
>
> Dont get me wrong, I dont want to blame, accuse or criticize anybody.
>
> I want to put awareness of what the Eg wants:
>
> The EGO seperates itself from all the others. The EGO wants to hang on
> to the old system
> of ruling, devide and conquer. The EGO is afraid of a world of the 'WE"
>
> We have to get over the stage of EGO driven tactics to create a truely
> free community.
>
> So what can we do about it?
>
> we have to show a lot of love towards the EGO driven minds. Hold em
> tight, say we love em, and that we appreciate their effort for the
> community.
> After all (lets hope) they have good intentions.
> But we also have to make it clear that we dont need all these
> regulations and the seperation from the rest of the world.
>
> we are one big family, and only if we accept this we can build a better
> future.
>
> just my personal feelings,
> p.
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