[sudo-discuss] Fwd: URGENT TO ALL TENANTS!!! First Friday Tomorrow Night....URGENT....PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

Fri Mar 1 01:20:10 PST 2013

Hey, so, flame off for a minute, but, I read Graeber's essay, and it made
sense as a reply to Chris Hedges, and I liked Graeber's debt book and
several of his essays all, but why, here, should I care whether black block
is a group or a tactic? What if it is neither, or other things
alternatively or in addition, or different things in different
circumstances according to different people with different views, which are
more relevant to the question of what is going to go down Friday night and
what if anything to do about it?
What is interesting about it, and what is the significance of what is
planned for Friday night, and what can we all expect, and what are options
with what pros and cons for what we should do Friday night, each and or all?

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> Yo's-
>
> Funny, I've heard the exact same words so many times:  "Black Bloc is a
> tactic, not a group."
>
> Remarkable coincidence, that.  "A tactic, not a group."  A slogan, not a
> catechism?
>
> I suppose the "Tactical Action Committee" is also a tactic, not a group,
> eh?  When is a committee not a committee?  When it's a tactic, er uh, a
> slogan!  Like the one the RCYB zombies used to chant, "A slogan!
> Repeated!  Will never be defeated!"
>
> Then there's this, from their latest PR: "FTP2.0 - FUCK THE POLICE  Take
> our pigs for a walk. They need the exercise. And it only costs the city
> $50K a week!"
>
> Right, do it for the lulz, because it's so much fun to waste taxpayers'
> dollars in times of tight budgets.  $50K is a teaching assistant for a
> year, or five families' worth of public assistance.
>
> How'bout Black Bloc come up with their own $50K to piss away?  They can
> burn it after they burn the flag.  That'll show some guts and conviction,
> instead of burning other peoples' tax dollars.
>
> Always easier to piss away someone else's money.
>
> SOS / SNS:  Same Old Shit, Some New Shingle.
>
> It's not a tactic, it's a tantrum.
>
> -G.
>
>
> =====
>
>
>
> On 13-03-01-Fri 12:20 AM, Shawn Lesniak wrote:
>
> Sent from my Android
> On Feb 28, 2013 11:53 PM, "Anon195714" <anon195714 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yo's-
> >
> > I stayed away from certain protests because it was known that Black Bloc
> (who are not black and are not from around the block) would be stirring up
> shit.
> >
>
> Black bloc is a tactic, not a group. Individuals of many races and many
> ideologies use the tactic to accomplish a variety of goals.
>
> > Their tactic boils down to:  infiltrate someone else's protest, then
> provoke the cops into over-reacting and hurting innocent protesters, and
> then try to use the police over-reaction as an excuse to stir up The
> Revolution.  I call that "revolution over _someone else's_ dead body," and
> yeah it's basically cowardly.
> >
>
> The police will do so regardless. Occupy Oakland was attacked by police
> before the traffic was used.
>
> > I guarantee, with 100% certainty, that there is at least one deliberate
> infiltrator/provocateur in Black Bloc, whose real goal is to destroy the
> effectiveness of various movements & protests in the Bay Area.  The rest of
> 'em, who do it for the jollies, are basically provocateur scabs, working
> for free and thereby undercutting the wages that might otherwise be paid to
> professional provocateurs.
> >
>
> lolwut
>
> > -G.
> >
> >
> > =====
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13-02-28-Thu 7:41 PM, Andrew wrote:
> >>
> >> Understod. I wasn't responding to you posting this, just the message
> itself which was probablly the result of a propaganda campeign by the OPD
> sent out to bussiness owners.
> >>
> >> I feel like someone has to respond to that stuff because of how twisted
> the facts and tone are.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >> On Feb 28, 2013 6:42 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to incite any fear! Just passing on the
> message for transparency so y'all are aware of the temperature of our
> landlords. That said, please do remember to close doors behind you when
> entering and exiting the building, *always and especially* if you go out
> the front (Broadway-side) door or down the stairs to the side door (the
> door to the stairs). Otherwise alarms go off and George calls and yells at
> me/sudoers :)
> >>> Jenny
> >>> http://jennyryan.net
> >>> http://thepyre.org
> >>> http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> >>> http://technomadic.tumblr.com
> >>>
> >>> `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> >>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> >>> -Laurie Anderson
> >>>
> >>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> it."
> >>>  -Hannah Arendt
> >>>
> >>> "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> >>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
> >>> ~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> so many things to say about this. but I really don't want this to
> turn into a black-bloc flame war. But, let me just say if this sounds
> strangely like a fear tactic and until reading this you never thought to
> feel personally threatened by the mythical black-bloc group.. there's a
> reason, cause it's mostly BS. The Oscar Grant riot was a bunch of people
> without mask looting stuff... this hasn't happened once during the occupy
> movement.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just hope this doesn't scare anyone away from being downtown after
> the 9pm shut down. We don't have a curfew!
> >>>>
> >>>> --Andrew
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Leonid Kozhukh <len at ligertail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> well, the 11pm shut down doesnt seem to make sense considering this
> says the party is 7-10pm...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Or http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/02/01/18731134.php
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2013 5:19 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Notice from the landlord regarding tomorrow's First Friday event
> and new guidelines posted by the City of Oakland.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> TL;DR:
> >>>>>>> -Laurie and George (the landlords) are asking that meetings
> disperse by 11pm, and that all doors be locked.
> >>>>>>> -OPD will be setting up a mobile command post on Telegraph & W
> Grand
> >>>>>>> -No First Friday events allowed south of W Grand
> >>>>>>> -Event ends at 9pm with a moment of silence
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>> From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop at comcast.net>
> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: URGENT TO ALL TENANTS!!! First Friday Tomorrow
> Night....URGENT....PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
> >>>>>>> To: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop at comcast.net>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/how-the-black-bloc-occupied-oakland/Co
> >>>>>>> ntent?oid=3036670
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The flier above (pdf) are guidelines for tomorrow night's First
> Friday Event
> >>>>>>> in lieu of expected potential violence from the group listed in
> the web site
> >>>>>>> above.  Apparently at sites (unknown to me) this black bloc group
> has been
> >>>>>>> advocating that people come out en mass and cause trouble after
> First Friday
> >>>>>>> is over.   We are asking that groups meeting in the building
> disburse by
> >>>>>>> 11pm and that all doors, esp. doors to Broadway, 22nd Street and
> the Alley
> >>>>>>> behind out of 2135, as well as the gate into the front entrance of
> 2135, be
> >>>>>>> securely locked by this time.  George will be there at that time
> to convince
> >>>>>>> all to leave the building and he will secure it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Groups or individuals not adhering to this warning and coming back
> to the
> >>>>>>> building after that time may find themselves responsible not only
> for
> >>>>>>> damages to their persons but damage done to the building or others.
> >>>>>>> This is a serious issue; even the Security Ambassadors are being
> asked to go
> >>>>>>> home by midnight for their own personal safety, and there is no
> expectation
> >>>>>>> that the police will have enough personnel on the streets should
> this get
> >>>>>>> out of hand.
> >>>>>>> Many of you were not there a few years ago during the (Oscar Grant)
> >>>>>>> riots....it was not pretty, and there WAS damage to our property.
>  Trouble
> >>>>>>> is NOT expected early in the evening.  Enjoy yourselves, but try
> to monitor
> >>>>>>> alcohol consumption (your own and those around you) for the safety
> of all
> >>>>>>> tomorrow evening...and get home early....and SAFELY!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Laurie & George
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> len
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> http://ligertail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> -------
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