[sudo-discuss] [OpenOakland Brigade] [OpenOakland] Community Wireless Networks Across America

Mon Jun 17 12:29:18 PDT 2013

Howard,

We're still deciding what areas to cover, we have some good community
partners in the San Antonio neighborhood which makes it attractive for a
first deployment. The distance between nodes depends on the landscape,
trees, buildings, etc. But in general they do have to be densely
distributed, maybe one or two per block.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Miguel Vargas <unroar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Yes! We've been on the hunt for locations in the hills. Lets coordinate a
> scouting trip to your house with a couple people from the mesh team.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not really sure if this is useful or not, but I'd be willing to donate a
>> spot on my roof for an antenna. I'm part way up the hills, and have a line
>> of sight view of Lake Merritt, chunks of downtown, and a wide swath of the
>> flats of Oakland, Emeryville, and Berkeley. Not sure if I can see the
>> sudoroom, as it is probably obscured by some taller buildings between here
>> and there.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/maps/bGpNk
>>
>> Is this useful? Perhaps as a relay between different neighborhoods or
>> something?
>>
>> -steve
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Miguel Vargas <unroar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Reading that description I'd say our mesh network project at sudoroom is
>> probably farther along than what he's offering for giving help, though it
>> would still be great to get his help. We recently purchased 100 routers and
>> our putting together plans for doing outreach in a neighborhood, which is
>> probably going to be  San Antonio in Fruitvale.
>>
>> If anybody is thinking of donating please consider giviving to our local
>> project instead at
>> https://www.wepay.com/donations/oakland-community-mesh-network
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Tony Barreca <tony.barreca at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> There's an active Mesh Network project in Oakland once again, the
>>> central locus of which is at Sudoroom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:05 AM, howard dyckoff <howarddy at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most of the Mesh network activity was previously confined to SF.
>>>>
>>>> I think there was some activity in North Oakland 2-3 years back.
>>>>
>>>> If I recall correctly, the cells have to be within half a mile or a
>>>> third of a mile of each other....  pls verify, I'm sure the range has
>>>> increased  gradually.
>>>>
>>>> And I think the min cost of a local neighborhood transmitter and
>>>> antennae was between $500 and $1000 a few years ago.  I hope that pricing
>>>> is better now.
>>>>
>>>> The problem, I think , is that the areas most in need of this have
>>>> fewer and less successful neighborhood associations and fewer households
>>>> that could afford to setup mesh nodes.
>>>>
>>>> That's unfortunate since this could provide really inexpensive internet
>>>> access for everyone.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure "Business Improvement Districts" could be involved, but there
>>>> are few of them operating in  East and West Oakland.  We'd need a big
>>>> grant to cover those areas -- or a lot of neighborhood organizing.
>>>>
>>>> And we'd have to plan for some of the equipment being stolen.  As an
>>>> example, the new library at 81st Ave, where we held an event earlier this
>>>> year,  had many of its computers stolen a few weeks after it opened.
>>>>
>>>> But I don't want to be too negative here.  I would definitely support
>>>> this effort.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Eddie Tejeda <eddie at codeforamerica.org
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Checkout this cool project by Preston Rhea, from Open Technology
>>>>> Institute at the New America Foundation. He's thinking that Oakland will be
>>>>> one of the pilot cities. There  are existing local mesh network projects in
>>>>> the area, right? People know how those projects are doing? This could be a
>>>>> collaborative opportunity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://crowdhitch.millennialtrain.co/campaign/detail/1330
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  The project is to spread locally-managed community wireless mesh
>>>>>> networks around the country. I'll teach local technologists and community
>>>>>> organizers how to use regular Wi-Fi routers and free, open source software
>>>>>> to build their own community Internet infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The project will use Commotion <http://commotionwireless.net/>, a
>>>>>> free, open source software project designed to make it easy for anyone to
>>>>>> set up their own mesh network. We'll share tools and methods for
>>>>>> participatory technology pedagogy, and the routers that we set up together
>>>>>> will remain with the locals to seed their own mesh networks. With these
>>>>>> seeds spread, people in each city can continue to grow locally-managed
>>>>>> Internet networks and spur innovation on a shared platform accessible to
>>>>>> any resident.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> 2012 Fellow, Code for America
>>>>>  http://codeforamerica.org
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