<div dir="ltr"><div><div>No one is really inviting a detective, right? there are lots of reasons not to. like, I assume many of us have a policy of only talking to LE w/ our lawyers..</div></div><div><br>
</div><div><div>The "fundamentals of armed robbery" workshop suggested in the articles could be quite informative! "fundamentals of computer fraud and abuse" could be interesting too, although according to <a href="https://data.oaklandnet.com/Public-Safety/CrimeWatch-Maps-Past-90-Days/ym6k-rx7a">https://data.oaklandnet.com/Public-Safety/CrimeWatch-Maps-Past-90-Days/ym6k-rx7a</a> there is quite a lot of robbery going on, hardly any "ACCESS COMPUTER/ALTER/ETC DATA:DEVISE SCHEME/ETC DEFRAUD/ETC"</div>
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--mark B.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Anon195714 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anon195714@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">anon195510@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Yo's-<br>
<br>
On the other hand, the Mayor could send along a plain-clothes
detective to hang out and keep an eye open for known gang members
etc. "Just say Honeypot!", and we're doing the city a favor.<br>
<br>
OK, so a few recent crime anecdotes: <br>
<br>
= A close friend's car window was smashed on the side street while
we were up at SudoRoom.<br>
= Another close friend's bike was stolen out of the common area.<br>
= A neighbor of mine's bike was stolen out of their garage today.<br>
= The officer who took the stolen bike report (Berkeley PD) said
that the standard MO these days is for the robber to knock at the
door, and if no answer, kick the door in. If the resident is away
it becomes a burglary. If the resident is home, it becomes a
home-invasion robbery or worse.<br>
= As another close friend of mine once said, "doors are a
convenience for people who are polite." A strong lock on a strong
door with a weak window nearby, is evidence of nothing more or less
than a homeowner without the ability to imagine how baddies think.
<br>
<br>
I don't see any lock-picking going on in any of those. As a method
of committing crimes, lock-picking is obsolete. <br>
<br>
And I do see an opportunity for some positive outreach to Mayor
Quan's office, re. the opportunity for having a detective attend the
event. This would be similar to how Quaker activist groups handled
their plans for protests, by keeping the relevant LE agencies
informed. When I lived in New England, I saw this first-hand, and
it worked. Protests organized by those groups were successful,
every time. <br>
<br>
Does anyone here have good relations with anyone in Oakland city
gov, and want to volunteer to get the lines of communication open?
<br>
<br>
-G.<br>
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<div>On 13-02-27-Wed 11:26 PM, Tommy York
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">"<span style="line-height:14.399999618530273px;font-size:12px">OAKLAND
-- One skill that appears all too common in Oakland these days
is the ability to pick a lock. Burglaries jumped more than 40
percent last year, and not all of them involved window smashes."</span>
<div>
<span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.399999618530273px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.399999618530273px">This
is a horrific excuse for journalism. Not all burglaries
involved window smashes? Oh really? And in that case, how many
involved skilled lock picking?</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.399999618530273px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.399999618530273px">Mencken
would be angry.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.399999618530273px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.399999618530273px">-
tommy<br clear="all">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM, J.D.
Zamfirescu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:zamfire@gmail.com" target="_blank">zamfire@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">more:
<div><br>
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<div><a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-quan-apologizes-promoting-lock-picking" target="_blank">http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_22683660/oakland-mayor-jean-quan-apologizes-promoting-lock-picking</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:15
PM, Matthew Senate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mattsenate@gmail.com" target="_blank">mattsenate@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">It's awesome, free press!<br>
</div>
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<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 27,
2013 at 9:40 PM, rusty lindgren <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rustylindgren@gmail.com" target="_blank">rustylindgren@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Oh dear gawd. This is possibly the
most moronic piece of "journalism" I
have ever seen. </div>
<div><br>
Are they unaware of the fact that you
can go to a lock-picking
school(actually it teaches you way
more), and that this is just a cheaper
version of that? (see: <a href="http://www.lock411.com/training.html" target="_blank">http://www.lock411.com/training.html</a>).
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div> Also, virtually no crime in
Oakland involves skilled lock-picking,
because it's a waste of time. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Don't worry though, you can train
in deadly martial arts, go to the
shooting range, and buy ninja swords
just about anywhere in Oakland, but
picking a Masterlock is "appalling". </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-Rusty<br>
<br>
</div>
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<div>On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:31 PM,
Anca Mosoiu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anca@techliminal.com" target="_blank">anca@techliminal.com</a>></span>
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<div>Hi everyone,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Heads up. <span></span>Looks
like some folks aren't too
happy that people are learning
how to pick locks this
weekend.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047" target="_blank">http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=9010047</a></span><br>
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<div>Here is Oakland
Local's response:</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:'.HelveticaNeueUI';white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning-weekend-lockpicking-class-really" target="_blank">http://m.oaklandlocal.com/article/oaklands-mayor-quan-apologizes-mentioning-weekend-lockpicking-class-really</a></span><span><font color="#888888"><br>
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