[sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] someone keeps leaving the front door unlocked

[Adam]

+1 for Patrick as well
On 23 Jan 2016 1:09 pm, "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd at gmail.com> wrote:

> By the way, the door was unlocked this morning at 10:15. There was
> someobody there who had a key, but she claimed it wasn't her who unlocked
> the door. (Sorry, bad with the whole names/faces stufff...)
>
> Patrik
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Adam <adam at aperture.systems> wrote:
>
>> I +1 juul and senate.
>> On 23 Jan 2016 12:55 pm, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ~~consensus decision making~~
>>>
>>> I'd give one to Yar
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 12:53 -0800, Adam wrote:
>>> > To whom should keys be given? How does one define a trustworthy
>>> > member?
>>> >
>>> > I mean I trust Jake, Robb, et al but whom else?
>>> >
>>> > At RIT's hackerspace we gave key cards to the people who were
>>> > responsible
>>> > for fixing the broken ship.
>>> > On 23 Jan 2016 10:51 am, "Torrie Fischer" <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Notes are cool and all but they don't work too well if people just
>>> > > ignore them.
>>> > >
>>> > > Folks seem to already be ignoring this mailing list and other
>>> > > cultural
>>> > > forces that request the door be kept close.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm in favor of rekeying the lock and making sure that whoever
>>> > > gives
>>> > > out the new keys has a stern conversation with keyholders about
>>> > > this
>>> > > sort of thing.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 09:53 -0800, danarauz at gmail.com wrote:
>>> > > > Oh Door:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Many times I have seen the door ajar, mostly at night, and when I
>>> > > > have
>>> > > > tried to closed it some folks standing outside, usually smoking,
>>> > > > had
>>> > > > ask me
>>> > > > to leave it like that.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On the other hand, when events are taking place I have noticed
>>> > > > that
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > door its intentionally kept open to guide the newcomers that it
>>> > > > is
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > entrance and they don't have to bother by ringing the bell, etc.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I don't have the solution to the whole door issue, but at least,
>>> > > > I
>>> > > > suggest,
>>> > > > we should have a note in the inside stating to keep it closed at
>>> > > > all
>>> > > > times,
>>> > > > of course, with exceptions when events are taking place.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Daniel
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Torrie Fischer <
>>> > > > tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Thats a solution, though I've seen that sort of thing defeated
>>> > > > > with
>>> > > > > people just wedging the door open or something.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Not to say that doing that is a fruitless endeavor but it can't
>>> > > > > be
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > only thing done.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 03:24 -0800, Charley Sheets wrote:
>>> > > > > > While I agree that re-keying may be necessary, and
>>> > > > > > restricting
>>> > > > > > key
>>> > > > > > distribution is prudent, I wonder if it might also be useful
>>> > > > > > to
>>> > > > > > investigate different door hardware. It seems unintuitive to
>>> > > > > > me
>>> > > > > > that
>>> > > > > > it
>>> > > > > > would always be necessary to re-lock the door after unlocking
>>> > > > > > it.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I would imagine there must be door hardware that allows for
>>> > > > > > only
>>> > > > > > a
>>> > > > > > momentary unlocking action, eliminating the need to re-lock
>>> > > > > > the
>>> > > > > > door.
>>> > > > > > Has anything like that been investigated? Is there some
>>> > > > > > nuance of
>>> > > > > > doors
>>> > > > > > that I'm just not understanding?
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