<div dir="ltr">Good point thanks Michael!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Michael Scroggins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michaeljscroggins@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaeljscroggins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">We can grab one of the 
side rooms if the hacker social hour gets to loud. I think there is also
 a move showing tonight in the main room...<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Michael <br></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br>
Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">
  <div dir="ltr">Okay great, let's say 6.30pm to start just to give 
everyone enough time to arrive, I'll probably be around from 6pm 
onwards.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So just a quick 
reminder</div><div>
<br></div><div><b>East Bay DIY BIO meeting TODAY starts at 
6.30pm</b> but I'll be around a little earlier at 6pm (probably talking 
with Marc about the Open source desktop biotech lab and doing inventory)</div><div>
<br></div><div><b>Agenda</b></div><div>PLEASE FIND THE
 EDITABLE AGENDA ATTACHED FOR THE MEETING BELOW FOR OUR MEETING TODAY:</div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHZdD9XVasdFDvGL2kyyMVyxZ_w8rXLuu7bw5nWIL3k/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LHZdD9XVasdFDvGL2kyyMVyxZ_w8rXLuu7bw5nWIL3k/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>

</div></div>
  <div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 
22, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Stefan Hristu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:romanian@gmail.com" target="_blank">romanian@gmail.com</a>></span>
 wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I will not be able to make 
this.</p><span><font color="#888888">
<p dir="ltr">Stefan</p></font></span><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 21, 2013 11:14 PM, "Ron Shigeta" <<a href="mailto:rtshigeta@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rtshigeta@yahoo.com</a>>
 wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span>either
 works for me... will be about 6:30 p.m. tho</span></div><div><br></div>
  <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">

 <div> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Ryan 
Bethencourt <<a href="mailto:ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com" target="_blank">ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com</a>><br>

 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Ron Shigeta <<a href="mailto:rtshigeta@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rtshigeta@yahoo.com</a>>
 <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> East DIYbio <<a href="mailto:east-bay-diybio@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">east-bay-diybio@googlegroups.com</a>>; Carl Crott 
<<a href="mailto:carlcrott@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlcrott@gmail.com</a>>; John Schloendorn <<a href="mailto:zauberkugel@gmail.com" target="_blank">zauberkugel@gmail.com</a>>; sudo-discuss <<a href="mailto:sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org" target="_blank">sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org</a>> <br>


 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 
21, 2013
 1:24 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: 
East Bay DIYBio next meeting possible topics of discussion...<br> </font>
 </div> <br>
<div><div dir="ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div>I just wanted to 
confirm that we are indeed still meeting this Friday at 6pm if that 
still works for everyone. At the moment I'm still trying to get us 
access to the Berkeley space that we discussed before for the possible 
East Bay DIY Bio hacker space but no word yet. So we have a choice</div>


<div><br></div><div>1. Meet at a Cafe/Bar/Restaurant (possibly Saturn 
Cafe) in Berkeley at 6pm</div><div>2. Alternatively, we could meet back 
at Sudo room at 6pm just before the hacker happy hour and talk for a 
while as people arrive until about 7/7.30pm?</div>


<div><br></div><div>My preference (for simplicity) would probably be 
Sudo Room</div><div><br></div><div>Let me and our fellow Biohacker 
members know if you have a preference?</div><div><br></div>
<div>Please also see the agenda below compiled by Ron:</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent">1) <span style="text-decoration:underline">How to build a self-sustaining 
community?</span> What sorts of organization, resources, people, 
physical requirements would there be to get a space off the ground?  </span></div>


<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Who will be in the community 
and what are their goals? </span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent"><div style="background-color:transparent">



<br>How might membership work? </div><div style="font-size:12pt">What 
are our self sustaining budget numbers?</div><div style="font-size:12pt">How
 will the lease and other such legal obligations work? </div></span></div>

<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:12pt">
<br>How can we collaborate with biocurious and nextgen? <span style="font-size:12pt">Who can be our allies to build this momentum?</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">



<span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent">Other topics related: legal, 
regulatory, fiscal requirements, organization, volunteers, building 
momentum, lab rules </span></div>


<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">



<span style="background-color:transparent">2) <span style="text-decoration:underline">Projects</span>.</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent">Everyone loves talking about 
projects.  Given some idea of what the community needs, how can projects
 build that community?</span></div>


<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Because it takes at least 6 
months of focused experience to get up to speed in actual biological 
hacking, team projects will probably be the mainstay of the lab for a 
while.   </span></div>


<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Team projects should probably
 be focused and supported by vote, but how can we gauge what is too 
ambitious for a first round? </span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">


<span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">For
 example: </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">


- open benchtop*</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">-
 the bioprinter project is an experience to learn from</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">


- bio Informatics support for the lab or diyBio </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">-
 open source bioreagent design. </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px">


<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-size:16px"><div style="background-color:transparent"><br>3) Appendix: Lessons learned:</div><div style="background-color:transparent">



- Biologists involved in the core of the startup process have been 
pretty useful.</div><div style="background-color:transparent">- getting 
members up to speed can take months and they need mentorship to get to a
 leve<span style="background-color:transparent">l of creative practice. </span></div>


<div style="background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent">- projects build enthusiasm as well
 as get people experience</span></div><div style="background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent">- classes are important</span></div>


<div style="font-size:medium;background-color:transparent">- the 
community is made of people all of whom are needed to build the 
community successfully (e.g. members, volunteers, class attendees, board
 members (or something like board members anyway). </div>


<div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt"><div style="font-size:12pt"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">* BTW - This is the gogofuge link I
 mentioned - really a niceified dremel centrifuge.  </div>


<div style="background-color:transparent"><font face="arial, helvetica, 
sans-serif"><a href="http://diybio.org/2012/06/12/gogofuge/" target="_blank">http://diybio.org/2012/06/12/gogofuge/</a></font></div></div></div></div>


<div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Ryan</div></div><div><br><br><div>On
 Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ron Shigeta <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:rtshigeta@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rtshigeta@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



Hey everyone,</div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Really 
enjoyed seeing everyone in last month!  </div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


<br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Since we 
have decided to talk more about an East Bay DIYBio space... I thought 
I'd suggest some structure for the meeting Friday...</div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If
 Ryan can swing it, walking through the space and taking it in will help
 establish the agenda more firmly, but in the interests of having a 
focused discussion I wanted to send out an agenda proposal - please lets
 change it, but have something like an agenda for the meet this month?</div>


<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



Feel free to add or hold forth...just want to get the ball rolling. </div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



<span style="background-color:transparent">1) <span style="text-decoration:underline">How to build a self-sustaining 
community?</span> What sorts of organization, resources, people, 
physical requirements would there be to get a space off the ground?  </span></div>


<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Who will be in the community 
and what are their goals? </span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


<span style="background-color:transparent"><div style="background-color:transparent"><br>How might membership work? </div><div style="font-size:12pt">What are our self sustaining budget numbers?</div><div style="font-size:12pt">



How will the lease and other such legal obligations work? </div></span></div><div style="font-size:12pt;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>How
 can we collaborate with biocurious and nextgen? <span style="font-size:12pt">Who can be our allies to build this momentum?</span></div>


<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Other topics related: legal, 
regulatory, fiscal requirements, organization, volunteers, building 
momentum, lab rules </span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


<span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent">2) <span style="text-decoration:underline">Projects</span>.</span></div>



<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent">Everyone loves talking about 
projects.  Given some idea of what the community needs, how can projects
 build that community?</span></div>


<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Because it takes at least 6 
months of focused experience to get up to speed in actual biological 
hacking, team projects will probably be the mainstay of the lab
 for a while.   </span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



<span style="background-color:transparent">Team projects should
 probably be focused and supported by vote, but how can we gauge what is
 too ambitious for a first round? </span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


<span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">For
 example: </div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


- open benchtop*</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">-
 the bioprinter project is an experience to learn from</div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


- bio Informatics support for the lab or diyBio </div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">-
 open source bioreagent design. </div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">


<br></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="background-color:transparent"><br>3) Appendix: Lessons learned:</div><div style="background-color:transparent">



- Biologists involved in the core
 of the startup process have been pretty useful.</div><div style="background-color:transparent">- getting members up to speed can 
take months and they need mentorship to get to a leve<span style="background-color:transparent">l of creative practice. </span></div>


<div style="background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent">- projects build enthusiasm as well
 as get people experience</span></div><div style="background-color:transparent"><span style="background-color:transparent">- classes are important</span></div>


<div style="font-size:medium;background-color:transparent">- the 
community is made of people all of whom are needed to build the 
community successfully (e.g. members, volunteers, class attendees, board
 members (or something like board members anyway). </div>


<div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt"><div style="font-size:12pt"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">* BTW - This is the gogofuge link I
 mentioned - really a niceified dremel centrifuge.  </div>


<div style="background-color:transparent"><font face="arial, helvetica, 
sans-serif"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://diybio.org/2012/06/12/gogofuge/" target="_blank">http://diybio.org/2012/06/12/gogofuge/</a></font></div></div>

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